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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by HuddsTigers » 29 Jan 2018, 19:04

Having now got on to the planning portal again, I can confirm that the coal extraction is only a small portion of the site and not interfering with the stadium site at all.

The document can be viewed here: http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Plann ... nt=obj.pdf

On the timeframes, which have slipped since the original application, however, just to give you all an indication of what's expected

Phases 1 and 2a - 61 weeks from start date. This is all the site preparatory works.
Phase 2b was to be started and planted in November 2018 but given the above delays, this may be delayed.

The club have since said they anticipate 2020 but obviously this is still on a best case scenario and could be at any point during 2020 (though I admit, the original statement read as start of 2020).
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Post by HuddsTigers » 29 Jan 2018, 19:06

RE: The roadworks, I wouldn't believe anything in relation to them. They keep changing. Were May, then April, then October, then June, now December.
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Dez » 29 Jan 2018, 19:33

Proper update thanks hudds. Wish lateral could give better updates think there pr offical must be on long term sick

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by yorky » 29 Jan 2018, 19:39

thanks Hudds

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Post by Tigerade » 29 Jan 2018, 21:32

Thanks for the update Hudds. I will say it again - we don't need to rush the process like Wakey to get this done. We don't want a bodge job. If it takes 3 years - great but if we have to have another 5 years at Wheldon Road then so be it. We need to get it right the first time - look at Salford who rushed the opening of their new stadium and it still resembles a building site.

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Post by onetiger » 29 Jan 2018, 23:39

well i for one have had a massive change of views and i can now see us getting this new ground
the reason for my change of mind is i work for a construction company and one of our top men of the company was saying how the new investment will be in castleford and the jobs it will bring .i dont know if we will be putting in for any of the jobs .i hope so love to be part of it ....

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Post by lurcher » 30 Jan 2018, 00:10

onetiger wrote:well i for one have had a massive change of views and i can now see us getting this new ground
the reason for my change of mind is i work for a construction company and one of our top men of the company was saying how the new investment will be in castleford and the jobs it will bring .i dont know if we will be putting in for any of the jobs .i hope so love to be part of it ....
wow, that is a big climb down. :clap:
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Post by onetiger » 30 Jan 2018, 01:49

lurcher wrote:
onetiger wrote:well i for one have had a massive change of views and i can now see us getting this new ground
the reason for my change of mind is i work for a construction company and one of our top men of the company was saying how the new investment will be in castleford and the jobs it will bring .i dont know if we will be putting in for any of the jobs .i hope so love to be part of it ....
wow, that is a big climb down. :clap:
it sure is a massive one but i,m sure now its going to happen i,m pleased to be wrong

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Post by gateman » 30 Jan 2018, 08:17

there seems to be more optimism from the fans that at last there could be movement on the stadium , WHY is the silence deafening from both the builders and club if there is any substance to these rumors ????

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Post by Tigerade » 30 Jan 2018, 08:41

I have a theory about the future of sports in the Wakefield district and how the process has been developed by the council over the last decade to get us to where we are now and where we will be in 10 years from now. It's quite long winded so I will be putting it in it's own thread very soon (that's if anyone is interested). It's based on the educational blue-print of Castleford and how that has been expanded to cover arts, sports and entertainment throughout the district.

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Post by mart0042 » 30 Jan 2018, 10:44

Thanks for the update hudds. Onwards and upwards.

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Post by lurcher » 30 Jan 2018, 13:59

Tigerade wrote:I have a theory about the future of sports in the Wakefield district and how the process has been developed by the council over the last decade to get us to where we are now and where we will be in 10 years from now. It's quite long winded so I will be putting it in it's own thread very soon (that's if anyone is interested). It's based on the educational blue-print of Castleford and how that has been expanded to cover arts, sports and entertainment throughout the district.
I'm sure vasty will enjoy reading it. :lol:
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Post by HuddsTigers » 30 Jan 2018, 14:34

gateman wrote:there seems to be more optimism from the fans that at last there could be movement on the stadium , WHY is the silence deafening from both the builders and club if there is any substance to these rumors ????
Because if they commented on every single worry the fans raised every single two weeks, they would never actually get any work done?

I’d rather them focus on dotting the i’s and t’s and come to us with a meaningful update than something that either tells us nothing or gives the fans false hope of something.

All their planning changes and discharging of conditions have been accepted now and passed. Reserved Matters for phases 1 and 2a have been passed already so there’s nothing stopping those from progressing over 2018.

And you kind of answered your own question: IF there is any substance - there is no evidence of anything other than the information that's been publicly made available on the Planning Portal across the whole of 2017, and in the rugby league press.
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Post by Tigerade » 30 Jan 2018, 20:42

I'm sure vasty will enjoy reading it. :lol:
Yes - it could be distressing for some.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by alcasfan » 30 Jan 2018, 21:09

Tigerade wrote:
I'm sure vasty will enjoy reading it. :lol:
Yes - it could be distressing for some.
Nah !

Easy for them, just this will do.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Digger Dave » 30 Jan 2018, 22:25

HuddsTigers wrote:
yorky wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.
I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.
Maybe you should remember that there were planning applications for a new ground across the road and we all know what happened there.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » 02 Feb 2018, 12:35

Digger Dave wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
yorky wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.
I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.
Maybe you should remember that there were planning applications for a new ground across the road and we all know what happened there.
At didn't get to the closing of the motorway to build a new junction layout, which is a massive undertaking. I guess by the end of 2018, we will find out if its going to happen or not. Only 11 months to go!

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Post by HuddsTigers » 02 Feb 2018, 14:05

Digger Dave wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
yorky wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.
I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.
Maybe you should remember that there were planning applications for a new ground across the road and we all know what happened there.
Yes - it was entirely reliant on funding by us and us selling Wheldon Rd to make it happen, in the middle of a rubbish economic climate.

Here, it's being paid for by someone else, funded by a pension provider and Leeds Development Fund and also GMI Construction. For me, it isn't a question of whether it will be built or not, it's a matter of when.
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by HuddsTigers » 02 Feb 2018, 14:07

mart0042 wrote:
Digger Dave wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
yorky wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.
I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.
Maybe you should remember that there were planning applications for a new ground across the road and we all know what happened there.
At didn't get to the closing of the motorway to build a new junction layout, which is a massive undertaking. I guess by the end of 2018, we will find out if its going to happen or not. Only 11 months to go!
We'll know when it's going to happen as Lateral intended to involve the fans in a consultation ahead of submitting reserved matters for the new stadium.

I assume they'll be working on plans to co-deliver with the club at the right time with clear visuals and plans (as we've seen before).
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by TT Tiger » 02 Feb 2018, 15:36

Let’s hope it’s better than the consultation then LUFC did with there fans over their proposed new badge

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