Flat Capper wrote:
Stop day dreaming!
Public transport is not an option people want to take, even if it is readily available, relatively cheap and clean. Most Cas fans won't live on a bus route that goes direct to the area and like rail travelers they will have to either walk or catch 2 or more forms of public transport.
Really? I think most Cas fans will be one bus journey away from the ground. For starters, the 410/411 from Leeds to Pontefract goes through Leeds, Methley, Cutsyke and Glasshoughton, and Pontefract town centre the other way. The 137/138 goes from Baghill, Carleton, Eastbourne from Ponte side.
The new paid for bus service by Lateral will go round Castleford town centre and up to Glasshoughton. I'd say the vast majority of Castleford supporters are based in Castleford within walking distance to a bus service that will get them to the ground, with a few in surrounding areas (Selby, Garforth, Swillington) and then those further afield (London, North East, Bristol, Midlands).
Equally as difficult is sitting on a bus surrounded by people you don't know or have no desire to know whereas sat in your car, even at a standstill in a queue, you can do what the hell you want; music, conversation, (illegally) eat and drink, fart, open/close windows and control the heaters/air con. You can set off exactly when you want as well as choosing to drive home at a time that suits you.
Fair point, but on a bus you can listen to your own music or radio, converse with friends and neighbours who are going to the game too on the same bus, eat, drink even blow off so Mildred next to you has her eyes watering. May be restricted by bus times but I'd hazard that a lot of fans will go early anyway to have a few beers. And I think you probably underestimate a lot of people, similarly as I may be over-estimating a lot of people. I don't think people as prudish as you think.
In terms of trains, the train from Leeds goes via Woodlesford. I was on the train on Sunday and reckon there was a good 50 people on the service I was on heading to the game. I know that's a small proportion but it still shows people will use it.
Away fans will use either coach travel or their own transport, all off which will add to the chaos. As I understand it the car park for the new stadium will have around 600+ spaces and controls in place to discourage rugby supporters from using the retail car parks.
Depends where the away fans are from I guess. The Lancashire sides, probably, yes and maybe Hull given it's just down the M62. Anyway, by the time we get a new stadium we'll have Toronto and Toulouse in Super League which will mean two less games to worry about away fans
If you visit Xscape on a Saturday or Sunday you will see the impact of traffic on the internal layout of Colorado Way which in the same timespan as the stadium build will have extra traffic directed to it from a new road about to be built through to Cutsyke.
Understandable but given the problems Salford have had, I think if fans know it is chaotic, this will only increase the probability of people seeking alternative transport than using their own car, using fuel sat in traffic.
It good that fans from Ponte will be able to walk fairly easily but we're CASTLEFORD Tigers. Most folk will want to walk from Cas so there's a net loss on the current situation.
What's stopping people walking from Cas? It's the same distance from Ponte town centre to the new stadium as it is from places like Cas town centre (1.5 miles each way or a 30-35 minute walk).
I know you like to look at everything Cas related through rose tinted specs but trust me, it's going to be chaotic.
Nothing to do with backing Cas or being rose-tinted - just the practicality of the situation. Local bus companies have already supported the initiative by putting on increased services and I reckon train services will follow once they know there's a profit to be made from it.