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Post by Normy Knight » 06 Sep 2006, 15:40

The Salford half-back is switching codes and is going to ply his trade at Northampton, he can play at fly or centre and he is a proven kicker.

There's also rumours flying around that Karl Pryce might go to Leicester Tigers.

Is it me, but don't you think the other code is draining our code of talent, apparently the Aussies are also having the same problem, and are at loggerheads with each other.

Now I belive thats why the ARL raised its salary cap to stop the drain, maybe thr RFL should be thinking of doing the same before it is too late.
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Post by Steadman_4_PM » 06 Sep 2006, 21:47

Normy Knight wrote:The Salford half-back is switching codes and is going to ply his trade at Northampton, he can play at fly or centre and he is a proven kicker.

There's also rumours flying around that Karl Pryce might go to Leicester Tigers.

Is it me, but don't you think the other code is draining our code of talent, apparently the Aussies are also having the same problem, and are at loggerheads with each other.

Now I belive thats why the ARL raised its salary cap to stop the drain, maybe thr RFL should be thinking of doing the same before it is too late.
The ARL won their battle to keep Mark Gasnier, despite a HUGE offer from the Aussie RU body. Not sure how though.

As for the salary cap, some good points made on Boots n All about why 14 our of 15 NRL clubs spend to their cap, as opposed to 5 of the current SL sides. End of the day, with relegation about, its not safe to chance your arm so much. Its also difficult to get investors as there is always that risk that the club they invest in will go down. Those concerns aren't relevant in NRL, therefore each club is able to spend their cap and is a big reason why they have had 7 or 8 different grand final winners in as many seasons.
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Post by Normy Knight » 06 Sep 2006, 23:40

Steady,I have said on previous posts that we should get rid of P+R, it is no good for the English game, but was shouted down.

If you talk to people in the know they all say the same.

Once franchise comes in, expect some serious changes in our game.

And I hope we will be there to see it.
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Post by Flat Capper » 07 Sep 2006, 00:07

Normy Knight wrote:Steady,I have said on previous posts that we should get rid of P+R, it is no good for the English game, but was shouted down.

If you talk to people in the know they all say the same.

Once franchise comes in, expect some serious changes in our game.

And I hope we will be there to see it.
Yes, there will be no interest in the game at this stage in the season!

The loss of the likes of Myler and K Pryce is reminiscent of the drain of 'stars' of RU to RL a few years back. Most of the time the players that leave are average, with only the occassional top player being tempted.

In additiona, I don't think it's coincidence that Matt Rodgers and that other Oz player are giving serious thought to a return to RL over there.

As I have said many times before, the only way to even up SL is to tighten the cap to the lowest denominator and spread the tallent across the baord. If every team can stand a chance of recruiting 3 or 4 players on top dollar and make the rest up from developing junior talent, the game will improve, like it has in Oz.
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Post by Normy Knight » 07 Sep 2006, 00:12

FC, besides Johnathon Davies whom to you refer to?
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Post by Flat Capper » 07 Sep 2006, 00:18

Are you asking me to name every player that came from RU or just the best one(s)?

Of those I can remember overall:

Martin Offiah
Paul Morriarty
John Deveruex
Scott Quinell (or was it Craig?)
Jon Wray (remember him?)
That ginger full back from New Zeeland (Leeds)
That other Jonathan that played for Saints
Scottish international for Leeds that went back
Paul Sampson

Like I said, most were average at best. :D
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Post by Normy Knight » 07 Sep 2006, 00:47

Send personnel reminder we are not in the swear box here.

I'll give you Deveraux, just.

Quinell- useless big fat lump of lard.
Gallaugher- Full back my ARSE.
The rest are not worth the time on the key board, sorry mate.
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Post by Flat Capper » 07 Sep 2006, 10:07

That's the point I'm making. Those that may be leaving RL aren't worth worrying about too much just as RU didn't worry about the loss of all those 'stars'. ;-)
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Post by Normy Knight » 07 Sep 2006, 10:16

We lost Farrel

Jason Robinson

They were after Cunningham, Long and Sculthorpe.
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Post by Flat Capper » 07 Sep 2006, 10:23

We had the best of Farrell and Robinson and we still have the other three.
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Post by Steadman_4_PM » 07 Sep 2006, 21:44

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 325174.stm

Bit cheeky for him to ask to leave with all of 2 games left!

Chris Charles wouldn't be a bad squad player for us next year IN SL!
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Post by Normy Knight » 07 Sep 2006, 21:54

Are RU clubs salary capped like us?
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Post by Steadman_4_PM » 07 Sep 2006, 22:00

Normy Knight wrote:Are RU clubs salary capped like us?
Nope.

I can see how Myler see's it as a great opportunity. Lets face it Saints have possibly the most entertaining stand off / fly half in world rugby in Carlos Spencer.

He could learn a hell of a lot from Carlos, but he's unlikely to play much. Many RU clubs in the top flight now recruit almost 2 squads so they don't get raped by international call ups. Saints will lose players no doubt, but I could only see Myler playing fly half, fullback and maybe centre. Their players in those positions are international class, but no longer part of the rep game.

Carlos has been firmly shown the door by the All Blacks.

Bruce Reihana at full back has opted to stay in England than go home and challenge for the All Black side.

Just don't see where he'll fit in.
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Post by Flat Capper » 08 Sep 2006, 00:15

Normy Knight wrote:Are RU clubs salary capped like us?
Not certain on this by any means but I think there is a limit but it's through the roof. I'd have a look but it would take me years to find it.
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Post by Steadman_4_PM » 08 Sep 2006, 00:19

Flat Capper wrote:
Normy Knight wrote:Are RU clubs salary capped like us?
Not certain on this by any means but I think there is a limit but it's through the roof. I'd have a look but it would take me years to find it.
Something RU has that RL does not, is money available in wages to secure top players. The RU paid for Jason Robinson to move to Sale plus covered Henry Paul's wages at Gloucester and I guess Farrell. Its not quite the central contracts system that works in Cricket, but its something similar in that the clubs aren't left to foot the bill.
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