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Re: Hardaker

Post by lurcher » 30 Jan 2018, 13:57

benny also commented on zac's fitness saying "he could run for days" and that's why benny admits he won't be able to replicate zac's style of play and will have to tweak it a bit.
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Re: Hardaker

Post by Mysterio » 30 Jan 2018, 14:57

Anything in the Zak to Wigan ?
If anything, we want him. He made a mistake - his first with us - and I'm certain this will have been the call to wake the lad up, he's a decent kid underneath it all.

Anyway - Wigan ? Toronto
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Re: Hardaker

Post by Riggins » 31 Jan 2018, 12:02

When he is eligible to play he plays for Cas and repays us.
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Re: Hardaker

Post by mystery » 03 Feb 2018, 19:18

Mysterio wrote:Anything in the Zak to Wigan ?
If anything, we want him. He made a mistake - his first with us - and I'm certain this will have been the call to wake the lad up, he's a decent kid underneath it all.

Anyway - Wigan ? Toronto
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Re: Hardaker

Post by takethetwo » 04 Feb 2018, 13:40

I got a call yesterday from a respected bloke involved with Cas . He said the club has told Zak that if he gets more than 2 years they are terminating his contract . Zak then had a meeting with Mr Wane.

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Post by old cas lass » 04 Feb 2018, 13:51

takethetwo wrote:I got a call yesterday from a respected bloke involved with Cas . He said the club has told Zak that if he gets more than 2 years they are terminating his contract . Zak then had a meeting with Mr Wane.
Can’t see him getting more than 2 years.
So does this mean Zak as thrown the dummy out and gone crawling to the gorilla.
I wonder if wane offers cas the 150k to buy his contract out now will we snap his hand off.
Did cas give Zak permission to speak to wane.
While under contract to cas surely he can’t do this if he’s a contract to full fill.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by yorkie1bn » 04 Feb 2018, 16:38

Wigan will not have him to much of a liability. They have already got better and more sensible players.

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Post by derbystiger » 04 Feb 2018, 16:39

old cas lass wrote:
takethetwo wrote:I got a call yesterday from a respected bloke involved with Cas . He said the club has told Zak that if he gets more than 2 years they are terminating his contract . Zak then had a meeting with Mr Wane.
Can’t see him getting more than 2 years.
So does this mean Zak as thrown the dummy out and gone crawling to the gorilla.
I wonder if wane offers cas the 150k to buy his contract out now will we snap his hand off.
Did cas give Zak permission to speak to wane.
While under contract to cas surely he can’t do this if he’s a contract to full fill.
I’d snap anyone’s hand off that offered 150K to buy his contract now

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Post by takethetwo » 04 Feb 2018, 19:00

old cas lass wrote:
takethetwo wrote:I got a call yesterday from a respected bloke involved with Cas . He said the club has told Zak that if he gets more than 2 years they are terminating his contract . Zak then had a meeting with Mr Wane.
Can’t see him getting more than 2 years.
So does this mean Zak as thrown the dummy out and gone crawling to the gorilla.
I wonder if wane offers cas the 150k to buy his contract out now will we snap his hand off.
Did cas give Zak permission to speak to wane.
While under contract to cas surely he can’t do this if he’s a contract to full fill.
It was on only a 2 minute conversation , but basically he told me SG told Zak what was happening regarding contract. Zak got a bit emotional and apologised for letting Daryl and Steve down. Then told him they wouldn’t stand in his way or stop him talking to any other club but he wouldn’t be going anywhere unless the ban was over 2 years.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 04 Feb 2018, 20:57

takethetwo wrote:
old cas lass wrote:
takethetwo wrote:I got a call yesterday from a respected bloke involved with Cas . He said the club has told Zak that if he gets more than 2 years they are terminating his contract . Zak then had a meeting with Mr Wane.
Can’t see him getting more than 2 years.
So does this mean Zak as thrown the dummy out and gone crawling to the gorilla.
I wonder if wane offers cas the 150k to buy his contract out now will we snap his hand off.
Did cas give Zak permission to speak to wane.
While under contract to cas surely he can’t do this if he’s a contract to full fill.
It was on only a 2 minute conversation , but basically he told me SG told Zak what was happening regarding contract. Zak got a bit emotional and apologised for letting Daryl and Steve down. Then told him they wouldn’t stand in his way or stop him talking to any other club but he wouldn’t be going anywhere unless the ban was over 2 years.
So of this is true it means we are keeping Zak's registration? If that happens we surely are not paying out the £100k+ per year salary he is v likely on? How will this work?
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Re: Hardaker

Post by nottinghamtiger » 04 Feb 2018, 21:05

RonnieGibbs'forearm wrote:
takethetwo wrote:
old cas lass wrote:
takethetwo wrote:I got a call yesterday from a respected bloke involved with Cas . He said the club has told Zak that if he gets more than 2 years they are terminating his contract . Zak then had a meeting with Mr Wane.
Can’t see him getting more than 2 years.
So does this mean Zak as thrown the dummy out and gone crawling to the gorilla.
I wonder if wane offers cas the 150k to buy his contract out now will we snap his hand off.
Did cas give Zak permission to speak to wane.
While under contract to cas surely he can’t do this if he’s a contract to full fill.
It was on only a 2 minute conversation , but basically he told me SG told Zak what was happening regarding contract. Zak got a bit emotional and apologised for letting Daryl and Steve down. Then told him they wouldn’t stand in his way or stop him talking to any other club but he wouldn’t be going anywhere unless the ban was over 2 years.
So of this is true it means we are keeping Zak's registration? If that happens we surely are not paying out the £100k+ per year salary he is v likely on? How will this work?
Most sports contracts have a clause that no payment will be made during a WADA suspension but the contract will resume once the suspension is served (presuming the contract is longer than the suspension, obviously).
If this is the case with Hardaker’s contract we are in a fairly strong position. We don’t need to pay him whilst (if) he is suspended and he is contracted to us upon his return.
Hypothetically, if he gets a two year ban he’s not going to be paid for 2018 and 2019 but, unless we agree otherwise and accept an offer for him, he’s our player when he returns in 2020.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by mart0042 » 05 Feb 2018, 10:47

I don't know how wada works but....

This is maybe an issue. It could make zh accept a 2 year ban rather than appeal and hope for lower? Could it force a player to do this?

It smacks off a dumb move by the club if it's true. I can see them giving one of many scenarios to him, ultimately we hold the reins.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by betts21 » 11 Feb 2018, 22:27

In league weekly Zak to wigan 5 year deal apparently they got him a personal trainer already and Gunna help him through his ban be interesting to know the real truth with all this

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Post by lidds » 11 Feb 2018, 22:31

betts21 wrote:In league weekly Zak to wigan 5 year deal apparently they got him a personal trainer already and Gunna help him through his ban be interesting to know the real truth with all this
Wonder if any £ will be coming our way? Can you 'sell' a player under these circumstances or will we have just released him and wigan have snapped him up.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by KB80 » 11 Feb 2018, 22:44

Someone's said on another thread Mitch Clark is signing for Feth permanently. If that is true and Hardaker is going to Wigan I wonder if we are clearing the way for a quota full back?

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Re: Hardaker

Post by SuffolkTiger » 11 Feb 2018, 22:54

betts21 wrote:In league weekly Zak to wigan 5 year deal apparently they got him a personal trainer already and Gunna help him through his ban be interesting to know the real truth with all this
I can't see anything - is there a link you could post please? Ta.

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Post by old cas lass » 11 Feb 2018, 22:54

KB80 wrote:Someone's said on another thread Mitch Clark is signing for Feth permanently. If that is true and Hardaker is going to Wigan I wonder if we are clearing the way for a quota full back?
I was told this about mitch clark at the game.
Nothing official as of yet.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by duke street 10 » 11 Feb 2018, 23:00

betts21 wrote:In league weekly Zak to wigan 5 year deal apparently they got him a personal trainer already and Gunna help him through his ban be interesting to know the real truth with all this
How is this going to work? how can a fee be agreed if his ban hasn't be set?

What with this and the new signings (most out on loan) this season has been a mess so far.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by PSTiger » 11 Feb 2018, 23:32

As it stands Cas isn’t going to Wigan or leaving Cas. Like I’ve said in a previous post I’m not in the know although I do know a couple of people close to Zak. It all depends on his ban at the moment but Cas are keen to see a return for their money, either keeping him or selling him. Preference from both sides is for Zak to stay.

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Re: Hardaker

Post by tigerfeat » 12 Feb 2018, 07:56

Soon as hes banned he will go to wigan
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