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Post by nottinghamtiger » 27 Jul 2017, 20:27

I'd be very tempted to give Gareth Ellis a one-year swansong.
Even at his age, he is a class above.

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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 27 Jul 2017, 20:46

nottinghamtiger wrote:I'd be very tempted to give Gareth Ellis a one-year swansong.
Even at his age, he is a class above.
I'd be disappointed with him as a signing now. 3-5 years back definitely but not now. Not for the money he'd want and the amouny of game time we'd get out of him. Surely get much more bang for our bucks looking elsewhere.
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Post by nottinghamtiger » 27 Jul 2017, 20:52

RonnieGibbs'forearm wrote:
nottinghamtiger wrote:I'd be very tempted to give Gareth Ellis a one-year swansong.
Even at his age, he is a class above.
I'd be disappointed with him as a signing now. 3-5 years back definitely but not now. Not for the money he'd want and the amouny of game time we'd get out of him. Surely get much more bang for our bucks looking elsewhere.
I suppose that would depend how much money he wanted.

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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 27 Jul 2017, 21:54

nottinghamtiger wrote:
RonnieGibbs'forearm wrote:
nottinghamtiger wrote:I'd be very tempted to give Gareth Ellis a one-year swansong.
Even at his age, he is a class above.
I'd be disappointed with him as a signing now. 3-5 years back definitely but not now. Not for the money he'd want and the amouny of game time we'd get out of him. Surely get much more bang for our bucks looking elsewhere.
I suppose that would depend how much money he wanted.
Even on the cheap I still feel he is well past his best and is such an injury roulette. World class player in his prime. Think we will be recruiting more youthful forwards who can do big minutes.
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Re: 2018 squad signings

Post by Le Van » 27 Jul 2017, 23:00

Wouldn't sign him on principal. ..

Allus said he wanted to finish his career with us, then chased the pound with FC instead of us...

Let him finish at Bell Vue..

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Post by TheSheriff » 27 Jul 2017, 23:35

Le Van wrote:Wouldn't sign him on principal.

Allus said he wanted to finish his career with us, then chased the pound with FC instead of us...

Let him finish at Bell Vue..
He didn't "chase the pound" at all, if he wanted to go anywhere for the money he could have gone back to Leeds or signed for St Helens or Catalan and got more than what Hull offered. Adam Pearson sold him on a vision (+ Gentle, who he worked with at Wests was head coach) , Cas had MIllward at the time and Ellis had zero intention of ever playing for a MIllward coached team. I'm also not 100% sure Cas ever offered him a deal on top of the fact Millward put him right off the idea anyway.

So if you want to blame anyone for Gareth Ellis never pulling on a Cas shirt blame Stuart Raper for saying he wasn't good enough and then Jack Fulton & Richard Wright for dilly dallying around with Peter Gentle leading to MIllward becoming the coach.

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Post by lurcher » 28 Jul 2017, 00:02

good post sheriff, seems to make sense. fumper may be able to add to this. I know wakey beat leeds to his signature as a youngster and leeds were willing to offer a lot more.
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Post by Le Van » 28 Jul 2017, 08:04

TheSheriff wrote:
Le Van wrote:Wouldn't sign him on principal.

Allus said he wanted to finish his career with us, then chased the pound with FC instead of us...

Let him finish at Bell Vue..
He didn't "chase the pound" at all, if he wanted to go anywhere for the money he could have gone back to Leeds or signed for St Helens or Catalan and got more than what Hull offered. Adam Pearson sold him on a vision (+ Gentle, who he worked with at Wests was head coach) , Cas had MIllward at the time and Ellis had zero intention of ever playing for a MIllward coached team. I'm also not 100% sure Cas ever offered him a deal on top of the fact Millward put him right off the idea anyway.

So if you want to blame anyone for Gareth Ellis never pulling on a Cas shirt blame Stuart Raper for saying he wasn't good enough and then Jack Fulton & Richard Wright for dilly dallying around with Peter Gentle leading to MIllward becoming the coach.
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If this is true then I stand corrected

Got told it was a done deal until Pearson came in with a last minute deal that he couldn't turn down.

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Post by mart0042 » 28 Jul 2017, 09:52

Ellis is long passed his best. He wouldn't be in or first choice 10 forwards.

Dave taylor is a beast and has great hands. Would say yes to an affordable one year contract. Not at the expense of Walmsley or burgess.

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Post by Fumper27 » 28 Jul 2017, 13:45

lurcher wrote:good post sheriff, seems to make sense. fumper may be able to add to this. I know wakey beat leeds to his signature as a youngster and leeds were willing to offer a lot more.
Gareth went to Wakefield Academy in 1999 along with about 10 others from that years Yorkshire U18s squad having been told in 1998 that he was "too small" to make it, bearing in mind that he was playing as a scrum half then. Fast forward twelve month and Gareth had grown about 15 inch and moved into the back row. The rest is history.

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Post by yorkie1bn » 28 Jul 2017, 13:52

Le Van wrote:Wouldn't sign him on principal. ..

Allus said he wanted to finish his career with us, then chased the pound with FC instead of us...

Let him finish at Bell Vue..
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Post by gateman » 31 Jul 2017, 17:00

Ellis in his hay day was something special ,with his age and the knocks he as taken he his still good when on the field but a player that plays one week and has the next three off is not what we want , sorry Gareth is not for me

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Post by TheSheriff » 31 Jul 2017, 19:15

The only shirt he will be playing in next year, if he plays, will most likely be Hull anyway.

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Post by ERG2012 » 03 Aug 2017, 06:07

https://youtu.be/k4GzAx-aAug

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Post by Mysterio » 06 Aug 2017, 14:46

Have we done any business for next year? (Don't have to name names) and if so, how many incoming
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Post by johnson » 06 Aug 2017, 16:20

Thank Daryl said only 3 incoming.
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Post by bane73 » 06 Aug 2017, 16:52

Mysterio wrote:Have we done any business for next year? (Don't have to name names) and if so, how many incoming
1 so far n I'm sworn to secrecy, so, don't ask cos I won't tell.
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Re: 2018 squad signings

Post by old cas lass » 06 Aug 2017, 17:21

Steve Gill as said on radio today we are well down the track of signing an English forward.
Hoping to announce in 2/3 weeks.

Now I wonder who that can be.

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Post by Fumper27 » 06 Aug 2017, 17:54

old cas lass wrote:Steve Gill as said on radio today we are well down the track of signing an English forward.
Hoping to announce in 2/3 weeks.

Now I wonder who that can be.
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Post by Fumper27 » 06 Aug 2017, 17:54

bane73 wrote:
Mysterio wrote:Have we done any business for next year? (Don't have to name names) and if so, how many incoming
1 so far n I'm sworn to secrecy, so, don't ask cos I won't tell.
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