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Cheating and the play of ball

Post by Bolton-tiger » 11 Apr 2019, 22:35

Hudds no.9 has done that now 2 weeks on the trot where hes passed the ball into the player on purpose and both times gets awarded with a penalty.its disgusting how u can blantent cheat and get rewarded for it.refs should be waving play on or give the penalty the other way...minikin had the chance to do the same in the 2nd half as the player was in his way but he didnt he passed around the player and played on.if the do that in the NRL refs wave play on and dont fall for the con by hookers.its getting more like football everyday where players cheat for penalties instead of just playing the game

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Post by TheSheriff » 11 Apr 2019, 23:14

The worst thing is they changed the rule on this a couple of years ago to the player passing the ball gets penalised and the ref is allowed to sin bin them for it.

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Post by lurcher » 11 Apr 2019, 23:50

i've heard DP is fuming about pig sty petes refereeing performance. not just the decisions but the disdainful way he spoke to the cas players. watch watts reaction when he is penalised for just touching mcgillverys face with a flat hand. its not for the penalty its what bent haler says to him.
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Post by TheSheriff » 12 Apr 2019, 00:00

lurcher wrote:i've heard DP is fuming about pig sty petes refereeing performance. not just the decisions but the disdainful way he spoke to the cas players. watch watts reaction when he is penalised for just touching mcgillverys face with a flat hand. its not for the penalty its what bent haler says to him.
It's every time he refs Cas - doesn't give them a fair shake and "talks" to the players with utter disdain in a rude & condescending tone. There's a reason Cas have filed multiple official grievances against him.

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Post by lurcher » 12 Apr 2019, 00:06

but on the other hand mate we are a little bit naive, i think it was in the 2nd half mini finds himself at acting half and a shudds player is in the way at the ruck. but instead of throwing the ball at him he takes a step back to to miss the shudds player.
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Post by TheSheriff » 12 Apr 2019, 00:26

lurcher wrote:but on the other hand mate we are a little bit naive, i think it was in the 2nd half mini finds himself at acting half and a shudds player is in the way at the ruck. but instead of throwing the ball at him he takes a step back to to miss the shudds player.


Completely agree, same as when a game is on TV and you take a whack to the face, stay down and let the VR take a look, it might not be the "correct" thing to do but everyone else is doing it so by not you're at a disadvantage.

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Post by fords » 12 Apr 2019, 05:59

lurcher wrote:i've heard DP is fuming about pig sty petes refereeing performance. not just the decisions but the disdainful way he spoke to the cas players. watch watts reaction when he is penalised for just touching mcgillverys face with a flat hand. its not for the penalty its what bent haler says to him.
You can see watts says "soft c*nt" and mcgillvery is just that. His fingers literally brushed his cheek , anybody would have thought he'd been hit with a baaeball bar over his head.

The pen on cook in the 2nd half that they kicked was a [REMOVED] take aswell

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Post by cogito ergo sum » 12 Apr 2019, 14:15

I'm pleased that our players didn't take the opportunity to cheat at the ptb. Currently the cheapest play in super league, and the powers need to do something.

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Post by derbystiger » 12 Apr 2019, 14:54

cogito ergo sum wrote:I'm pleased that our players didn't take the opportunity to cheat at the ptb. Currently the cheapest play in super league, and the powers need to do something.
Agreed

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Post by drleftie » 12 Apr 2019, 17:29

There was an incident in the 2nd half where Clare (I think) went to pass the ball from dummy half & a Hudds player was standing in the way in an offside position. Clare held back the pass & moved so he could pass the ball without it hitting the opposition player. We might be crap but at least we play in the spirit of the game. Leeming should be ashamed of himself.

edit- think this was the same incident as Lurcher has referred to.

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Post by tigerfeat » 12 Apr 2019, 18:41

The melbourne game on this morning the refs were just shouting milking if a player was on the floor in the ruck there not daft enough to fall for it like the clowns over here thaler and leeming should be embarrassed if they watch a re run of the game
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Post by Bolton-tiger » 13 Apr 2019, 18:14

Watching the hull and cats game and theres a few times where people are milking at the play of the ball ie gigot kicking ball into the player that he never looked like he was going to kick it proper and hull player pushing into a player laid on the floor throwing hiself over him for the penalty...looks like they watched the hudds game and fort ohhhh will do that since they are getting away with it

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Post by baldtiger » 13 Apr 2019, 19:47

Watched st helens friday night . They were the same in the first half at least 2 milked penaltys hate to see it and just so glad its very rare at Cas . Nothing in the second half when the game was won . Is it just me but the most cheating teams seem to have ausi coaches ?

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Post by alftupper » 13 Apr 2019, 21:05

Bolton-tiger wrote:Hudds no.9 has done that now 2 weeks on the trot where hes passed the ball into the player on purpose and both times gets awarded with a penalty.its disgusting how u can blantent cheat and get rewarded for it.
McShane gets a quick play the ball spots a defender trying to get back on side and makes a beeline for him wilfully running into him and earning a penalty. I suppose this is virtuous play from a saintly Cas player is it?

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Post by cogito ergo sum » 14 Apr 2019, 09:21

alftupper wrote:
Bolton-tiger wrote:Hudds no.9 has done that now 2 weeks on the trot where hes passed the ball into the player on purpose and both times gets awarded with a penalty.its disgusting how u can blantent cheat and get rewarded for it.
McShane gets a quick play the ball spots a defender trying to get back on side and makes a beeline for him wilfully running into him and earning a penalty. I suppose this is virtuous play from a saintly Cas player is it?
Completely virtuous, as every hooker in the game makes that play, gained by a quick ptb and a retreating defence. The pundits never question that play, but the one this discussion is about is questioned every week.

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Post by drleftie » 14 Apr 2019, 09:56

alftupper wrote:
Bolton-tiger wrote:Hudds no.9 has done that now 2 weeks on the trot where hes passed the ball into the player on purpose and both times gets awarded with a penalty.its disgusting how u can blantent cheat and get rewarded for it.
McShane gets a quick play the ball spots a defender trying to get back on side and makes a beeline for him wilfully running into him and earning a penalty. I suppose this is virtuous play from a saintly Cas player is it?
There's a world of difference. The defender not square at the ptb has the option of not making the tackle and getting out of the way. Even if there is contact because the attacker runs directly at him no penalty is awarded if the defender does not attempt the tackle. The player on the floor however is targeted directly by the pass cannot avoid it and as soon as the ball hits him the penalty is awarded.

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Post by old cas lass » 14 Apr 2019, 10:28

Just watching the NRL game Canberra v parramatta.
It’s good to see the refs in oz have got wise to it.
In SL there would have been 5/6 more penalties in this game.
The ref just lets the players get up, infact I’ve not seen one player throw the ball at a defender laid in the ruck. They just wanna play rugby.

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Re: Cheating and the play of ball

Post by alftupper » 19 Apr 2019, 10:29

any comment about McMeeken throwing away the ball at the play the ball in an attempt to con a penalty last night?

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Post by heritage1926 » 19 Apr 2019, 10:38

alftupper wrote:any comment about McMeeken throwing away the ball at the play the ball in an attempt to con a penalty last night?
If you're talking about the one with Fifita, I didn't see it has a deliberate act to cheat, he simply got the ball caught behind Fifita after holding the ball incorrectly and lost it and like most players tried to claim his innocence.

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Post by cogito ergo sum » 19 Apr 2019, 10:50

alftupper wrote:any comment about McMeeken throwing away the ball at the play the ball in an attempt to con a penalty last night?
He's close to his own line, early in tackle count, and you suggest he throws ball away to con a penalty...

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