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Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 09:13
by braytontiger
Tamworth Tiger wrote:I think the top teams, particularly the top three have found us out on the wings and defended our attacking plays really well. Wigan in particular had Shenny wrapped up almost as soon as he had the ball and Gale who was clearly not at his best for whatever reason was not putting in the long cut out passes.
The forwards weren’t making the yards so we were relying on Gale kicking with what has turned out to be an injured knee and Roberts whose kicking was ineffective. We appear not to be using McShane in the same way since Gale came back and really missed Trueman. Up front the load was too heavy for Millo and Watts against the biggest team in the comp and we really missed Moors particularly with Cook not available too.
There is undoubtedly work to be done on attitude but we also need to try and freshen our squad. My worry is about where are the players going to come from?
The really good ones are trying out in Aus, some of the next ones off the rank are trying Canada and the South of France and a lot of promising youngsters are leaving the sport at 19.
Our best young player isn’t a local product and other younger players in the squad of varying degrees of ability like Springer, Maher and O’Neill aren’t from Cas.
Attitude in big games is certainly one problem, but not the only one.
Yet 5 cas lads all under 20 will be first team squad members next year at other super league clubs. :-k the talent is there.

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 09:37
by tigerfeat
I think all these things need to be looked at it's very hard for a young guy to get a chance at cas hence talent leaves the club
I suppose the thinking at Wigan who tend to use there young players more is there likely to show more minerals in big games if it gets sqeeky bum time

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 11:36
by Nobody
In hospital this morning on Instagram, guessing for knee operation

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 12:16
by SWISS TONY!!
Do we know if Shenton is having a knee operation too? They mentioned the other night on forty20 live that he tore his mcl in the wakey game and still played against Wigan. Seeing his reaction at the wakey game and the look on his face you could tell it was serious. Anybody heard owt?

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 15:57
by Fumper27
Just been told that the halves for the game against France are likely to be Liam Sutcliffe and Jake Connor.

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 17:35
by John
braytontiger wrote:
Tamworth Tiger wrote:I think the top teams, particularly the top three have found us out on the wings and defended our attacking plays really well. Wigan in particular had Shenny wrapped up almost as soon as he had the ball and Gale who was clearly not at his best for whatever reason was not putting in the long cut out passes.
The forwards weren’t making the yards so we were relying on Gale kicking with what has turned out to be an injured knee and Roberts whose kicking was ineffective. We appear not to be using McShane in the same way since Gale came back and really missed Trueman. Up front the load was too heavy for Millo and Watts against the biggest team in the comp and we really missed Moors particularly with Cook not available too.
There is undoubtedly work to be done on attitude but we also need to try and freshen our squad. My worry is about where are the players going to come from?
The really good ones are trying out in Aus, some of the next ones off the rank are trying Canada and the South of France and a lot of promising youngsters are leaving the sport at 19.
Our best young player isn’t a local product and other younger players in the squad of varying degrees of ability like Springer, Maher and O’Neill aren’t from Cas.
Attitude in big games is certainly one problem, but not the only one.
Yet 5 cas lads all under 20 will be first team squad members next year at other super league clubs. :-k the talent is there.
Maher and O'Neill are from Cumbria but they have come through the set up Trueman is not from Cas lads that have gone have gone for a reason so are you saying you would rather have cas lads that can not make the grade than Trueman and O'Neill that will probebly very young good lads name a half back from cas who is better than Trueman and dont say mc clelland not a patch on jake then name a hooker from cas who is better than oneill sometimes you have to bring lads in thats just how it is who are the 5 players u20 please

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 20:33
by John
John wrote:
braytontiger wrote:
Tamworth Tiger wrote:I think the top teams, particularly the top three have found us out on the wings and defended our attacking plays really well. Wigan in particular had Shenny wrapped up almost as soon as he had the ball and Gale who was clearly not at his best for whatever reason was not putting in the long cut out passes.
The forwards weren’t making the yards so we were relying on Gale kicking with what has turned out to be an injured knee and Roberts whose kicking was ineffective. We appear not to be using McShane in the same way since Gale came back and really missed Trueman. Up front the load was too heavy for Millo and Watts against the biggest team in the comp and we really missed Moors particularly with Cook not available too.
There is undoubtedly work to be done on attitude but we also need to try and freshen our squad. My worry is about where are the players going to come from?
The really good ones are trying out in Aus, some of the next ones off the rank are trying Canada and the South of France and a lot of promising youngsters are leaving the sport at 19.
Our best young player isn’t a local product and other younger players in the squad of varying degrees of ability like Springer, Maher and O’Neill aren’t from Cas.
Attitude in big games is certainly one problem, but not the only one.
Yet 5 cas lads all under 20 will be first team squad members next year at other super league clubs. :-k the talent is
Who are the 5 u20s

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 20:40
by braytontiger
Morgan smith
Cam smith
Louis Johnson
Calum mclelland
Corey Johnson

Nobody is having a dig at lads from elsewhere it was a response to the previous post.

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 08:18
by John
braytontiger wrote:Morgan smith
Cam smith
Louis Johnson
Calum mclelland
Corey Johnson

Nobody is having a dig at lads from elsewhere it was a response to the previous post.
Oh right the thing is these lads never wanted to play for cas apart from louis so we are better with lads who want to play

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 08:35
by Tamworth Tiger
John wrote:
braytontiger wrote:
Tamworth Tiger wrote:I think the top teams, particularly the top three have found us out on the wings and defended our attacking plays really well. Wigan in particular had Shenny wrapped up almost as soon as he had the ball and Gale who was clearly not at his best for whatever reason was not putting in the long cut out passes.
The forwards weren’t making the yards so we were relying on Gale kicking with what has turned out to be an injured knee and Roberts whose kicking was ineffective. We appear not to be using McShane in the same way since Gale came back and really missed Trueman. Up front the load was too heavy for Millo and Watts against the biggest team in the comp and we really missed Moors particularly with Cook not available too.
There is undoubtedly work to be done on attitude but we also need to try and freshen our squad. My worry is about where are the players going to come from?
The really good ones are trying out in Aus, some of the next ones off the rank are trying Canada and the South of France and a lot of promising youngsters are leaving the sport at 19.
Our best young player isn’t a local product and other younger players in the squad of varying degrees of ability like Springer, Maher and O’Neill aren’t from Cas.
Attitude in big games is certainly one problem, but not the only one.
Yet 5 cas lads all under 20 will be first team squad members next year at other super league clubs. :-k the talent is there.
Maher and O'Neill are from Cumbria but they have come through the set up Trueman is not from Cas lads that have gone have gone for a reason so are you saying you would rather have cas lads that can not make the grade than Trueman and O'Neill that will probebly very young good lads name a half back from cas who is better than Trueman and dont say mc clelland not a patch on jake then name a hooker from cas who is better than oneill sometimes you have to bring lads in thats just how it is who are the 5 players u20 please
Assume you are asking Brayton. My question was where are the players going to come from? I agree that we are bringing lads in. That was part of my concern but I’m not against us doing it if we can find good ones

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 08:52
by gateman
Wigan recruit from far and wide Ryan Hampshire was signed on at 16 years and had to leave home to live in Wigan, I attend as many 19s matches as I can we have a number of lads coming through that could make the grade, all we seem to lack is size, I have always took an interest in the Juniors at Normanton Leeds seem to pick up the players with size, up to a few years ago Bradford did the same

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 09:16
by Tamworth Tiger
Leeds were always good at recruiting the good ones. Remember them signing up Les Dyl very early when I was at school

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 10:01
by braytontiger
John wrote:
braytontiger wrote:Morgan smith
Cam smith
Louis Johnson
Calum mclelland
Corey Johnson

Nobody is having a dig at lads from elsewhere it was a response to the previous post.
Oh right the thing is these lads never wanted to play for cas apart from louis so we are better with lads who want to play
That's very true but then you have to ask why.

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 10:14
by tigerfeat
Facilites maybe ? But I would imagine very hard to get a chance to play in the first team unless your the next wally lewis

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 11:04
by gateman
i dont know wether this is true but i was told DP was at CAS and Sheffield oferd him better terms the rest his history, if we want the young lads to stay you have got to make it worth their while

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 14:18
by old cas lass
Not about gale, but oli Holmes as been drafted into the full England squad.

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 22:23
by yellow_t-shirt
braytontiger wrote:
John wrote:
braytontiger wrote:Morgan smith
Cam smith
Louis Johnson
Calum mclelland
Corey Johnson

Nobody is having a dig at lads from elsewhere it was a response to the previous post.
Oh right the thing is these lads never wanted to play for cas apart from louis so we are better with lads who want to play
That's very true but then you have to ask why.
Pathway....pure and simple!

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 15 Oct 2018, 10:31
by HuddsTigers
Money. Facilities. Off-field links - same as most players.

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 15 Oct 2018, 18:48
by tigerfeat
old cas lass wrote:Not about gale, but oli Holmes as been drafted into the full England squad.
And well done to him ...can anyone tell me what channel the match is on ta

Re: Gale pulls out England Squad

Posted: 15 Oct 2018, 18:50
by Nobody
tigerfeat wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Not about gale, but oli Holmes as been drafted into the full England squad.
And well done to him ...can anyone tell me what channel the match is on ta
Not on TV it's on the our league app, maybe website as well not sure.