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Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:02 am
by tigerfeat
They got a player coming in there in l.coote who will help them with his experience in big games let's hope were looking to improve the squad in the same way

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:17 am
by tigerfeat
Tigerade wrote:A similar take on the semi-final defeat here from Justin Holbrook of Saints. Mental toughness been the issue......

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/16 ... will-help/

Nearly 5,000 speccies we took to Wigan there's a passion in the town for the club I agree with what you said yesterday the times right to invest some of the record profits on a marquee signing if we can find the right bloke

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:36 am
by Tigerade
Yes I agree Tigerfeat. A new player with that mental toughness. Someone of the calibre of Danny Nutley would be a good start. It would have to be a marquee wage though as most of the cap space is already taken up.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:58 am
by Tamworth Tiger
Tigerade wrote:Yes I agree Tigerfeat. A new player with that mental toughness. Someone of the calibre of Danny Nutley would be a good start. It would have to be a marquee wage though as most of the cap space is already taken up.


I don’t disagree with the comment but Nutley didn’t help us win arguably the biggest game in our history at the time the first ‘million pound match’ as it was then called and that was despite having a pack that wasn’t bullied by anyone

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:29 pm
by Sharlotiger
Tigerade wrote:Yes I agree Tigerfeat. A new player with that mental toughness. Someone of the calibre of Danny Nutley would be a good start. It would have to be a marquee wage though as most of the cap space is already taken up.
But to have a marquee player though we would still need £150K cap space which at present we don't have. We supposedly only have enough space for a squad player unless some players who are in contract for next year are moved on.

Looks like some players have been rewarded with inflated contracts in recent times which I aint sure they deserve.When you look at the quality within the Wire squad they seem to be getting hell of a lot more for their brass than we are.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:38 pm
by tigerfeat
I don't know but I'd guess we got 150 grand left of cap if not we need to do some wheeling and dealing the team needs a couple of good new players in who will make a difference otherwise it will be the same story we've got used too

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:56 pm
by Swagger
I thought we only need 75k cap space for a marque signing? Then the other 75k is wiped off.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:53 pm
by alftupper
Maher, Aston and Springer are failed projects and need to be removed from the payroll ASAP. Every penny spent on their wages is a penny wasted. The first two were never even project material for me, just a mistake taking them on for so long.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:11 pm
by Spanishtiger
Swagger wrote:I thought we only need 75k cap space for a marque signing? Then the other 75k is wiped off.


The marquee rule is that you can pay 2 players whatever you like with only the first 150k per player counting on the cap.

The exception to this is if you as a club have produced that player (he played at least 3 seasons within your club at academy, reserve or first team level before the age of 21). This being the case only the first 75k of their wages counts on the cap.

So for example at Wigan the marquee players are Ratboy and Williams who both count as 75k each.

At Warrington the marquee player was Tyrone Roberts who counted as 150k on their cap. Likewise Barbra at Saints.

So in order to bring in eg. Cooper Cronk and pay him 1m a season you would have to have 150k spare on your salary cap.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:18 pm
by Mysterio
It strikes me that the exceptionally high 3 quality signings Saints have made so far, alongside I think the genuine quality in their ‘project signing’, really outline the ambition and commitment made to their fans, sponsors and squad surrounding securing silverware.

We are on a level playing field.

We should be doing the same. Big signing or small signing - we need and demand quality now.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:31 pm
by braytontiger
To make a marquee signing first and foremost the right player in the right position as to be available. To me the one position we need a world class player would be in the centre. Another question would be are we actively looking for anyone and exploring the possibility of bringing in such a player.

Like many people on here I've seen us drop down the league like a stone more than once for the want of getting in a bit of quality. Great making profits whilst the iron is hot but if you don't build on success those profits can quickly turn into losses.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:18 pm
by gateman
the club want to sell season tickets, no way would I want us to go into the red but if season ticket sales are going to increase we have to speculate to accumulate, a lot of you like myself buy into the season tickets knowing full well we are going to miss games

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:35 pm
by HuddsTigers
alftupper wrote:Maher, Aston and Springer are failed projects and need to be removed from the payroll ASAP. Every penny spent on their wages is a penny wasted. The first two were never even project material for me, just a mistake taking them on for so long.


I assume we gambled on Maher in the same way we took a punt on Massey in his development, who is now first choice.

I think it's unfair on Aston to judge him when he's not played first team and we have had no insight into Powell's plans with him, what the expectations were of him when we signed him, and also what we see in the future from him. He was never signed as a week in, week out first teamer.

Springer is weird as he's clearly suffered from injuries but he's not fulfilled his potential YET. But you're right in that we need to make a decision on these players in the near future and whether we can use the cap space more effectively if we're to keep our position at the top end of the table.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:05 am
by heritage1926
Maher was a project, which hasn't worked. We took him from Cumbria purely for his size. The reason we have persisted with him for so long is because he's come from Cumbria and they've invested time and money in to him.

Re: Daryl Powell

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:38 am
by fords
heritage1926 wrote:Maher was a project, which hasn't worked. We took him from Cumbria purely for his size. The reason we have persisted with him for so long is because he's come from Cumbria and they've invested time and money in to him.


And its all been a waste. Get rid now and stop wasting money on him.