Well that didn't take long......

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Re: Well that didn't take long......

Post by westyorkylad » 28 Sep 2018, 14:49

dettoriman wrote:I'd have him back. On the right terms.

If Wigan sack him he would be in last chance saloon.

A much lower contract to earn our trust and close monitoring.

He's the best player in the league. And on ability alone he would be considered.

Especially with the opportunity to free PM into a centre position which isn't our strongest moving forward.

It will be up to Wigan. Daryl and Jon Wells. I certainly wouldn't pay a fee. And understand anyone who would wash their hands of him. But he's got the ability to keep getting chances. Slipping down the league's or out of the game won't be good for him mentally. And he's too gifted to let that happen
I don't tend to disagree with much of what you say, and I would agree he is without a doubt one of the best fullbacks in SL and the best we have had since Steady, but to say he is the best player in the league, come of it.

He had a great season last year, as did all of our pivots they were all outstanding, as were a number of other players in the team Millo and Webo to name but a couple more, but Zak the best player in the league???

Don't remember him being the best player in the league the season before we signed him either, think there's a few people that seem to remember his contributions to last season being hugely more memorable than I seem to remember.......... a very good fullback granted, best player in the league not a chance.

Also as much as I was all for giving him a second chance, and still believe we should and could have got some payment out of Wigan, the lad will continue to self-destruct because he's a numpty.

Happy for him to be Wigans numpty now and concentrate on PM who I think has every chance of turning into an excellent fullback from what I have seen so far.

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Re: Well that didn't take long......

Post by duke street 10 » 28 Sep 2018, 15:10

init wrote:bang him up
I think this would be the only thing that would straighten him out.

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Post by TT Tiger » 28 Sep 2018, 15:40

init wrote:
Cannot defend driving whilst under the influence....could quite easily have killed someone....bang him up
Drink driving is unforgivable it ruins lives. I would not be surprised if there was something else in his system. I would not be happy for the club to sign some one who could have killed a family.

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Re: Well that didn't take long......

Post by Visitor » 28 Sep 2018, 16:28

dettoriman wrote:
He's the best player in the league.
He’s not even the best player at Wigan!

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Re: Well that didn't take long......

Post by Matt » 28 Sep 2018, 17:07

TT Tiger wrote:
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Cannot defend driving whilst under the influence....could quite easily have killed someone....bang him up
Drink driving is unforgivable it ruins lives. I would not be surprised if there was something else in his system. I would not be happy for the club to sign some one who could have killed a family.
Without insurance either just to make it worse for the other party involved.

Almost exactly the same time of year since the last incident too, wonder if he'll be using the same excuse. Wigan should sack him and every other club should refuse to sign him.
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Post by Laner57 » 28 Sep 2018, 17:10

Or even the best fullback

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Post by Scoopage » 28 Sep 2018, 17:25

Those more in know than me.is there a chance he could do time?

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Post by Swagger » 28 Sep 2018, 18:09

Laner57 wrote:Or even the best fullback
He is. 100%. Barba is poor in defence. Zak can do it all. I know most Cas fans hate him but he is a class player.

However, he should be locked up for what he has done. Could of easily hit somebody and killed them. He's had enough last chances now.

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Re: Well that didn't take long......

Post by Mysterio » 28 Sep 2018, 19:43

He *needs* Prison
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Post by fords » 28 Sep 2018, 19:49

Mysterio wrote:He *needs* Prison
Hasn't he already had 12 month driving ban about 4/5 yrs ago?

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Post by Squaddie86 » 28 Sep 2018, 20:26

Scoopage wrote:Those more in know than me.is there a chance he could do time?

Legally speaking? Yes. Up to 6 months.

In reality? No. A fairly wealthy man with decent legal defence playing the "young man with his whole life ahead of him, oh and he's got known mental health problems so you can't be mean to him" card will never get a custodial sentence.

I know a woman who killed a mother and young child(not sure exactly how old) texting-whilst-driving and she recieved 2 years, was let out after 3 months and recieved a glowing reference for setting up a reading class whilst inside...

So yeah, no chance.

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Post by lurcher » 28 Sep 2018, 22:54

well i'll throw this one into the mix. prior to the sky game the players from both sides walk out holding the hand of one of the young mascots. if you had a child/grandchild would you want millions on sky watching him/her walking out holding zacs hand? i wouldn't.
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Post by heritage1926 » 29 Sep 2018, 08:31

There's more to the story than him just DUI and having no insurance or tax. But it will all come out in court.

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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 29 Sep 2018, 08:43

heritage1926 wrote:There's more to the story than him just DUI and having no insurance or tax. But it will all come out in court.
How do you know with any certainty?
I heard a mix of tales about it but have no idea if any of them are true.
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Post by heritage1926 » 29 Sep 2018, 09:02

RonnieGibbs'forearm wrote:
heritage1926 wrote:There's more to the story than him just DUI and having no insurance or tax. But it will all come out in court.
How do you know with any certainty?
I heard a mix of tales about it but have no idea if any of them are true.
There's at least 4 different rumours going about, from what I've read on social media. Put it this way, he didn't wear his quickest trainers.

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Re: Well that didn't take long......

Post by Laner57 » 29 Sep 2018, 09:28

Prison is just the place for a drug addict. Plenty of choice....

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Post by gateman » 29 Sep 2018, 12:06

in the daily Mirror ZAKS agent says he is a lovely lad its only when he as had a drink that he does daft things, no mention of drugs

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Post by braytontiger » 29 Sep 2018, 12:20

gateman wrote:in the daily Mirror ZAKS agent says he is a lovely lad its only when he as had a drink that he does daft things, no mention of drugs
Of course he's going to say that he gets 10% of his supposed 3k a week earnings. A lovely lad, you wouldn't want him dating your daughter that's for certain.

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Post by fords » 29 Sep 2018, 12:34

gateman wrote:in the daily Mirror ZAKS agent says he is a lovely lad its only when he as had a drink that he does daft things, no mention of drugs

So that's ok then if its only a drink. What if he had killed somebody.

Don't understand why anybody has any time for him or defends his actions full stop.

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Post by Matt » 29 Sep 2018, 13:00

gateman wrote:in the daily Mirror ZAKS agent says he is a lovely lad its only when he as had a drink that he does daft things, no mention of drugs
Must have been a long drinking session to forget that your car doesn't have a valid MOT or the fact that you never insured yourself to drive the thing either.
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