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by Casmoley » 08 Jul 2018, 19:04
Scoopage wrote:old cas lass wrote:Casmoley wrote:old cas lass wrote:Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.
This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.
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Oh go away. Even Daryl said Jake had his worse performance last week.
When that post was made it was correct.
The lad as worked very hard to get were he is now.
he wouldn't of had that performance today if he was shopped off to the championship though..
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by Mysterio » 08 Jul 2018, 19:29
Old one - I firmly believe - is either a parent or family member of Trueman, or another young bloke at the club.
What they say is right too.
We need to back these young lads more.
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cogito ergo sum
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by cogito ergo sum » 08 Jul 2018, 22:23
No doubt he's a talent, and today he flourished behind a dominant pack and against a team who looked shot after the first quarter. But he still did it!
His poorer performances have come against teams who physically dominated us, such as Saints first up, and Cats last week, but he's young and has to be allowed to develop without being over - exposed.
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by gateman » 08 Jul 2018, 23:52
Man of the match performance today he looked dangerous every time he had the ball , Jake is turning out to be some player , keep it up young fella
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by SuffolkTiger » 08 Jul 2018, 23:55
gateman wrote:Man of the match performance today he looked dangerous every time he had the ball , Jake is turning out to be some player , keep it up young fella
Just seen the tries on SKY - he certainly has got the bit of special something. The coaching staff will nurture him.
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by Adelaide Tigurrrr! » 09 Jul 2018, 02:25
cogito ergo sum wrote:No doubt he's a talent, and today he flourished behind a dominant pack and against a team who looked shot after the first quarter. But he still did it!
His poorer performances have come against teams who physically dominated us, such as Saints first up, and Cats last week, but he's young and has to be allowed to develop without being over - exposed.
Spot on Cogito,
Obviously living in Australia I didnt see todays game but from what I have read on this and other sites he was as good today as he was poor last week.
The difference - one week the pack gets smashed by the Cats and the next week the pack steamrolls the Rhinos. I watch a lot of NRL and not even Johnathan Thurston can rescue the Cowboys if their pack is being dominated.
But I hope DP keeps giving Tryeman a rest every so often to make sure he develops in the right way.
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by ERG2012 » 09 Jul 2018, 08:00
Some very good stuff from young Trueman yesterday and looks like he's developing nicely
Only one thing I would like - pre season he does an intensive sprint training program to make him even more of a threat
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by StevieTheTV » 09 Jul 2018, 08:00
The kid could be special. I just hope he has the drive and dedication that other potentially special players havent had.
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by orrsome » 09 Jul 2018, 08:51
Jake is a very talented kid who just lacks a half yard of pace. Hopefully that pace will come as he matures.
In the first half today he was making half breaks but not being quite fast enough to accelerate through the gaps he had created.
In the second half, with Leeds players tiring, he was able to finish too.
With his developing kicking game, particularly grubber kicks, he is becoming a real asset and I really cant think of a better coaching team to nurture Jake to his full potential.
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by Jonny1975 » 09 Jul 2018, 09:20
Lacks pace !!! He's fastest half back we've got at the club. He may need to develope some parts of his game, but pace isn't one of em, just ask the Leeds defence.
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by old cas lass » 09 Jul 2018, 09:29
Jonny1975 wrote:Lacks pace !!! He's fastest half back we've got at the club. He may need to develope some parts of his game, but pace isn't one of em, just ask the Leeds defence.
I’m with orrsome.
The first half playing towards the WRE it was obvious to see, 3/4 times he poked his nose through but just didn’t have the pace to go through.
Second half Leeds were out on there feet with 15 to go, trueman took advantage of that hence his 2 tries.
Not saying he’s not fast but that excelation or maybe lack of confidence was just lacking.
He certainly grew into the game.
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cogito ergo sum
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by cogito ergo sum » 09 Jul 2018, 09:30
I also think he lacks pace, the kind of pace the best half back have, which is the first 5 metres. A couple of times yesterday he was caught after making the initial space.
I am not bagging him however, he was superb, having a rugby brain far in excess of his experience.
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by orrsome » 09 Jul 2018, 09:36
Jonny1975 wrote:Lacks pace !!! He's fastest half back we've got at the club. He may need to develope some parts of his game, but pace isn't one of em, just ask the Leeds defence.
He's the fastest half back at the club who's currently fit! But being faster than Ellis is no real achievement
I don't know how, but Gale developed another half yard of pace last year and I hope Jake does the same.
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by tigerfeat » 09 Jul 2018, 09:48
jesus just let the kid develop in two or three years time he will playing for england ,hard to sum up how good he was yesterday and people still having a moan
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by Fumper27 » 09 Jul 2018, 09:49
orrsome wrote:Jake is a very talented kid who just lacks a half yard of pace. Hopefully that pace will come as he matures.
In the first half today he was making half breaks but not being quite fast enough to accelerate through the gaps he had created.
In the second half, with Leeds players tiring, he was able to finish too.
With his developing kicking game, particularly grubber kicks, he is becoming a real asset and I really cant think of a better coaching team to nurture Jake to his full potential.
I agree. Said on leaving the ground yesterday that if Jake had the explosive “off the mark” pace that Sam Tomkins had when he burst into the scene, he’d of scored at least five tries yesterday. That said, good performance from the young man.
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by Morrissey » 09 Jul 2018, 10:06
I was talking to my mate who is a Leeds fan before kick off talking about young players. The problem with them is that showing natural ability isn't the problem - it's doing it on a consistent basis that is the difficulty. Oledzki is a good example in that he was expected to play five games at the most this season for Leeds, and has now not missed a game in a couple of months. In that time he has had great games (against us at Magic) and poor games (yesterday). I'd say the same about Jake Trueman - he was probably not expecting to be the starting half back but having now been in the side since the start of May, in what is his first proper season - in the most difficult, specialist position on the pitch - he is going to have ups and downs. I imagine Daryl would probably have liked to rest or rotate him but it is tricky without reshuffling the entire team.
I genuinely think he will be better for this experience and for me should be playing at 6 alongside Luke Gale when he is back from injury instead of Jamie Ellis. That's if he can slot in on the right hand edge when Luke comes back to take the left edge that he has orchestrated so well. It was a pleasure to see him glide through the Leeds line so effortlessly in the second half.
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by Flat Capper » 09 Jul 2018, 12:36
There isn't a half-back in the world who can dominate a game if the pack in front of them is constantly on the back foot. Yes, the half-back needs to guide the pack but if you're losing dominance in the tackle the tackle you will always be going backwards.
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by derbystiger » 09 Jul 2018, 15:04
Jake take a bow young lad. Fantastic performance yesterday. The most pleasing thing for me is that he isn't afraid to take the line on. He has all the skills, but I do agree that he currently lacks just that half yard of pace. He could have had 3 in the first half. I think this will come though with sprints during off season. He doesn't need pace to go the length of the field, just that explosive few yards to get through the gap. Agree 100% that he should be starting half with Gale when Gale is back. The experience, both good and bad, that he's gained having to try and lead the side around the field in his first season without a leader next to him will prove invaluable and make him a better player for it. His stint at fullback will also have done him good. We need to stick with him and give him the 6 shirt next year in my opinion. Keep up the good work Jake
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by casjunction » 09 Jul 2018, 20:12
Great game,kept getting his nose through ,l agree once he has mastered that initial burst of speed to get through the gaps he either sees or creates he will take some stopping.
He has a good tackling game as well.
His organisational skills are developing week on week.
We certainly need to secure his services with a long contract.
A very exciting young player.
Well done Jake.
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by ERG2012 » 09 Jul 2018, 20:21
I read the Warrington forum and they are wanting him to team up with Blake Austin
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