Jake Trueman

[PSTiger]

Trueman is 19 years old. In 5 years he will be winning the man of steel and a regular international. I hope it is at Cas not that some of our “fans” deserve it.

[lurcher]

On todays performance he should have a prolonged spell back in the under 19's. His passing and kicking game was dire at best and his age is no excuse, others seem to manage. That today has to rank with the worst displays of the season, all we had to do was control the ball instead of trying to play fancy dan rugby.

My dad once told me that the human brain is a very complex and diverse organ, now I finally understand what he was trying to say.

[gateman]

Jake at this moment in time is doing it tough with no regular half back partner, nice kick for the Hitchcox try when Minikin broke through, whether he is a future GB half back the jury is still out for me the lad as some improving to do

[cogito ergo sum]

Back when I started watching, stand offs such as Chuck had pace, supported the forwards and provided a link. Full backs rarely scored tries.
In the modern games it seems the job has changed in that full backs take much of that role and stand offs seem to direct play. George Williams has no great pace just lays off ball, kicks etc.
John Wells made a point on the screen after Warrington that QLT's try was a full back's try. Not in the 60's and 70's, it was a stand off's try. Albert Lunn wouldn't have scored one like that if he'd played until today!

[orrsome]

Back when I started watching, stand offs such as Chuck had pace, supported the forwards and provided a link. Full backs rarely scored tries.
In the modern games it seems the job has changed in that full backs take much of that role and stand offs seem to direct play. George Williams has no great pace just lays off ball, kicks etc.
John Wells made a point on the screen after Warrington that QLT's try was a full back's try. Not in the 60's and 70's, it was a stand off's try. Albert Lunn wouldn't have scored one like that if he'd played until today!

Remember Derek Edwards - terrific attacking full back, who started as a stand off.

[cogito ergo sum]

Back when I started watching, stand offs such as Chuck had pace, supported the forwards and provided a link. Full backs rarely scored tries.
In the modern games it seems the job has changed in that full backs take much of that role and stand offs seem to direct play. George Williams has no great pace just lays off ball, kicks etc.
John Wells made a point on the screen after Warrington that QLT's try was a full back's try. Not in the 60's and 70's, it was a stand off's try. Albert Lunn wouldn't have scored one like that if he'd played until today!

Remember Derek Edwards - terrific attacking full back, who started as a stand off.

I do, great player, but to illustrate the point, he scored 38 tries in 309 games for Cas. over 8 seasons. Less than 5 a season. Luke Dorn scored 45 tries in 59 games as Cas full back over 3 seasons.

[orrsome]

Back when I started watching, stand offs such as Chuck had pace, supported the forwards and provided a link. Full backs rarely scored tries.
In the modern games it seems the job has changed in that full backs take much of that role and stand offs seem to direct play. George Williams has no great pace just lays off ball, kicks etc.
John Wells made a point on the screen after Warrington that QLT's try was a full back's try. Not in the 60's and 70's, it was a stand off's try. Albert Lunn wouldn't have scored one like that if he'd played until today!

Remember Derek Edwards - terrific attacking full back, who started as a stand off.

I do, great player, but to illustrate the point, he scored 38 tries in 309 games for Cas. over 8 seasons. Less than 5 a season. Luke Dorn scored 45 tries in 59 games as Cas full back over 3 seasons.

I understand, but I reckon that Derek would have scored lots of tries with the current style of play in RL, as his background as a stand off would have enabled him to read and take opportunities.
My point is that there were attacking full backs back then but it was the style of play that limited the number of tries they scored.

[cogito ergo sum]

Exactly the original point I made. The role is different, that's why it's not as important that Jake may lack pace. Look at Liam Finn for example.

As you say, Derek started life as a stand off, so did Luke Dorn. I think Rachford did, and so did Ben Barba.

[heritage1926]

Anyone doubting Trueman, watch the highlights back. He was directly involved in 3 of Jy's tries. The talent is definately there, the rugby brain is there. He is just lacking at the minute consistency. You will see a better Jake when Gale returns, at the minute he is having to do too much and alot of emphasis is being placed on him at the minute to step up and be the leader in the halves, something at the moment he isnt ready for.

Anyone comparing him and Richardson right now, is like apple and oranges. Richardson is playing in the best team in the league around world class players. Trueman has had about 4/5 different half back partners so far this year. Imagine what he'd f been like last season given a run in the team when it was us blowing teams away.

[heppy]

For me it,s confidence,he,s a young lad in with the big boys.He cant feel easy telling old pros where he wants them to run.He has the raw talent believe me it will come good.

[mart0042]

For me it,s confidence,he,s a young lad in with the big boys.He cant feel easy telling old pros where he wants them to run.He has the raw talent believe me it will come good.

and do it for 80 minutes with little help and a tired team with no :subs.

[Scoopage]

Fill your boots old cas lady

[Casmoley]

Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.

This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.

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[old cas lass]

Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.

This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.

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Oh go away. Even Daryl said Jake had his worse performance last week.
When that post was made it was correct.
The lad as worked very hard to get were he is now.

[Scoopage]

Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.

This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.

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Oh go away. Even Daryl said Jake had his worse performance last week.
When that post was made it was correct.
The lad as worked very hard to get were he is now.

[Casmoley]

Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.

This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.

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Oh go away. Even Daryl said Jake had his worse performance last week.
When that post was made it was correct.
The lad as worked very hard to get were he is now.

he wouldn't of had that performance today if he was shopped off to the championship though..

[Mysterio]

Old one - I firmly believe - is either a parent or family member of Trueman, or another young bloke at the club.
What they say is right too.
We need to back these young lads more.

[cogito ergo sum]

No doubt he's a talent, and today he flourished behind a dominant pack and against a team who looked shot after the first quarter. But he still did it!

His poorer performances have come against teams who physically dominated us, such as Saints first up, and Cats last week, but he's young and has to be allowed to develop without being over - exposed.

[gateman]

Man of the match performance today he looked dangerous every time he had the ball , Jake is turning out to be some player , keep it up young fella

[SuffolkTiger]

Man of the match performance today he looked dangerous every time he had the ball , Jake is turning out to be some player , keep it up young fella

Just seen the tries on SKY - he certainly has got the bit of special something. The coaching staff will nurture him.