Really don't think being of similar age means much. Shaun Johnson and Jamie Ellis are similar in age... (although not in weight :-" )old cas lass wrote:Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.
This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.
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Disagree. I think two youngsters of similar age who are progression focused means more than comparing two guys who are already established.MØL wrote:Really don't think being of similar age means much. Shaun Johnson and Jamie Ellis are similar in age... (although not in weight :-" )old cas lass wrote:Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.
This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.
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Exactly FFS.PSTiger wrote:He’s 2 and a half years older than Trueman and isn’t being asked to be the main man at Saints unlike Trueman.old cas lass wrote:Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.
This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.
Let's take 12 players out of Saints team and ask a 19 yr old kid run the show and see how they get on.
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Not seen today’s game, but do know this.
Trueman will come good and win us games one day.
In 5 years times he could be a super league winning half back, and still only 24. Absolutely incredible experience for him, he
L be Captain one day.
Trueman will come good and win us games one day.
In 5 years times he could be a super league winning half back, and still only 24. Absolutely incredible experience for him, he
L be Captain one day.
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Truey and richardson too completly different player imo both play the game different also one playing in a team whos been near on same players same position week on week and all probably playing to the top of there ability.
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I was joking regarding the Johnson/Ellis statement.smarty_tiger wrote:Disagree. I think two youngsters of similar age who are progression focused means more than comparing two guys who are already established.MØL wrote:Really don't think being of similar age means much. Shaun Johnson and Jamie Ellis are similar in age... (although not in weight :-" )old cas lass wrote:Not a patch on Richardson at saints. Both similar age but Richardson seemed to have come on better than trueman. He scored 3 tries on his debut at Wigan. Everyone thought him the bees knees. He needs a run in the championship with less pressure, seems to be telling on him now. I’m sure he’ll come good further down the line, sadly we need him on the pitch cos Roberts and gale are weeks away.
This isn’t a go at trueman , just an opinion.
Just because of similar age for young players doesn't mean they should automatically be of similar ability. Some progress slower, some perform better due to their current group of player around them and some just have more of the raw talent.
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Trueman will come good. Unfortunately he has no choice but be the main guy due to injuries, which is a lot for a young lad. The best guys have a bad day. He has been pretty good this season overall.
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Im sure powell would not have wanted to play him as much has hes had to this season but its all good experiance for him and if he looks on here i wouldnt worry mate luke gale won man of steel last year and played in world cup final and was getting it on here before he got injured
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Let’s have some perspective.
The lad is playing two positions both left and right side. QLT is a stop gap and doesn’t possess a kicking game. He’s a half back not a miracle worker.
The lad is playing two positions both left and right side. QLT is a stop gap and doesn’t possess a kicking game. He’s a half back not a miracle worker.
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Spot on.HuddsTigers wrote:Let’s have some perspective.
The lad is playing two positions both left and right side. QLT is a stop gap and doesn’t possess a kicking game. He’s a half back not a miracle worker.
One good win and Turner is the obvious choice for fullback and QLT a great number 6. We are doing it tough and still not losing. I'm pretty happy with that at this stage.
Come the super 8s we could be full strength.
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Worst comment on this forum. EVER.sparky49 wrote:On todays performance he should have a prolonged spell back in the under 19's. His passing and kicking game was dire at best and his age is no excuse, others seem to manage. That today has to rank with the worst displays of the season, all we had to do was control the ball instead of trying to play fancy dan rugby.
He was the best half on the field yesterday.
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"kicking game was dire " bit makes me laugh watching tries again it was a lovely kick he put in on the run for the second try and then dropped ball in perfect spot for jy to get third try
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Itigerfeat wrote:"kicking game was dire " bit makes me laugh watching tries again it was a lovely kick he put in on the run for the second try and then dropped ball in perfect spot for jy to get third try
I don't think Powell as helped Jake with how he as hyped him up and now everyones expectations of him are too high. Yesterday he did some good things and poor and you will generally get this with young players and this is what helps them grow.
The extra games Jake is getting this year as our controlling half will really speed up his development and his future looks btight we just have to live with the odd mistake here and there within his game at present.
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Although I wasn’t at the game yesterday and so can’t comment on Jake’s performance I would like to make just one pretty glaring observation.
One of the posters seems to think that because Danny Richardson is playing so well, and in their opinion Jake did not yesterday (although the same age), I’d like to point out that Danny Richardson is in fact more than 2 years older than Jake (Danny Richardson d.o.b. 2nd Sept 96, Jacob Trueman d.o.b. 16th Feb 99).
Although Danny Richardson is a very good player, in a standout team, and that at a similar age to Jake he was also a very good player, he was not in the position of being a first team player in SuperLeague (and nor was he capable of being so at that stage).
Jake Trueman is currently of a very high quality (irrespective of age) and with all things being equal (no serious injuries, etc) will be a standout performer for many years to come.
The track record of posters on this forum ‘destroying’ young Castleford players is legend and for the sake of the development of ALL players then perhaps some caution should be used when commenting on ‘young’ players. They are your future.
Hope this post offers an opportunity for everyone to sit back and give further consideration before ripping into any player, not just the young ones.
P.S. Also remember that most posters on the forum are supporters and spectators, not experts in the field of performance coaching, but your opinions on a forum probably carry as much weight in the eyes of those supporters and spectators !!
One of the posters seems to think that because Danny Richardson is playing so well, and in their opinion Jake did not yesterday (although the same age), I’d like to point out that Danny Richardson is in fact more than 2 years older than Jake (Danny Richardson d.o.b. 2nd Sept 96, Jacob Trueman d.o.b. 16th Feb 99).
Although Danny Richardson is a very good player, in a standout team, and that at a similar age to Jake he was also a very good player, he was not in the position of being a first team player in SuperLeague (and nor was he capable of being so at that stage).
Jake Trueman is currently of a very high quality (irrespective of age) and with all things being equal (no serious injuries, etc) will be a standout performer for many years to come.
The track record of posters on this forum ‘destroying’ young Castleford players is legend and for the sake of the development of ALL players then perhaps some caution should be used when commenting on ‘young’ players. They are your future.
Hope this post offers an opportunity for everyone to sit back and give further consideration before ripping into any player, not just the young ones.
P.S. Also remember that most posters on the forum are supporters and spectators, not experts in the field of performance coaching, but your opinions on a forum probably carry as much weight in the eyes of those supporters and spectators !!
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You can also add Richardson has played with a very consistent spine of experienced players for the last 18 months which is a very telling factor in his development/progress/performance
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Trueman is 19 years old. In 5 years he will be winning the man of steel and a regular international. I hope it is at Cas not that some of our “fans” deserve it.
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My dad once told me that the human brain is a very complex and diverse organ, now I finally understand what he was trying to say.sparky49 wrote:On todays performance he should have a prolonged spell back in the under 19's. His passing and kicking game was dire at best and his age is no excuse, others seem to manage. That today has to rank with the worst displays of the season, all we had to do was control the ball instead of trying to play fancy dan rugby.
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Jake at this moment in time is doing it tough with no regular half back partner, nice kick for the Hitchcox try when Minikin broke through, whether he is a future GB half back the jury is still out for me the lad as some improving to do
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Back when I started watching, stand offs such as Chuck had pace, supported the forwards and provided a link. Full backs rarely scored tries.
In the modern games it seems the job has changed in that full backs take much of that role and stand offs seem to direct play. George Williams has no great pace just lays off ball, kicks etc.
John Wells made a point on the screen after Warrington that QLT's try was a full back's try. Not in the 60's and 70's, it was a stand off's try. Albert Lunn wouldn't have scored one like that if he'd played until today!
In the modern games it seems the job has changed in that full backs take much of that role and stand offs seem to direct play. George Williams has no great pace just lays off ball, kicks etc.
John Wells made a point on the screen after Warrington that QLT's try was a full back's try. Not in the 60's and 70's, it was a stand off's try. Albert Lunn wouldn't have scored one like that if he'd played until today!
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Remember Derek Edwards - terrific attacking full back, who started as a stand off.cogito ergo sum wrote:Back when I started watching, stand offs such as Chuck had pace, supported the forwards and provided a link. Full backs rarely scored tries.
In the modern games it seems the job has changed in that full backs take much of that role and stand offs seem to direct play. George Williams has no great pace just lays off ball, kicks etc.
John Wells made a point on the screen after Warrington that QLT's try was a full back's try. Not in the 60's and 70's, it was a stand off's try. Albert Lunn wouldn't have scored one like that if he'd played until today!
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