I see where you are coming from Frankas, but there are 2 sides to every story and we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors. We will probably never know the 100% truthFrankas wrote:If it turned out he has been hounded out it is disgusting, and if the team aren't performing on the field because of this it shows how they feel about the matter. I know Steve and he is Cas through and through, and to be honest it has sickened me, I spent a lot of money with Cas, and if this turns out to be true, I will save a lot of money, and call it a day.
I hope to god that if Steve has gone it's his decision, or you will find a lot of people walk away, and if Gratton do's take over it will be a backward step.
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This is also my take on it. He has done a good job when the club was up to its ears in it but if we want to kick on then we need professionals doing a professional job. Steve would only be able to take us so far, we now need new blood and it HAS to be fresh blood from outside the club. If we remain insular we will slip back and if it’s Gratton then the club will likely disappear off a cliff, the guy is the ultimate gentlemans sausage.sirocco7 wrote: To be honest SG leaving maybe a good thing. Don’t get me wrong he’s done a brilliant job but ultimately he’s not a business man he’s a former coal miner and rugby coach. A new CEO may help us take the next step !
As for Steve thanks for your efforts. I hear theres a head of youth job going if you fancy it.
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Who do you think has hounded him out then?
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there is also this coming up, so i assume we would wish to be there, perhaps it might not be an option so we want the right person representing out club http://www.rugbyexpo.com/
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The Firm wrote:This is also my take on it. He has done a good job when the club was up to its ears in it but if we want to kick on then we need professionals doing a professional job. Steve would only be able to take us so far, we now need new blood and it HAS to be fresh blood from outside the club. If we remain insular we will slip back and if it’s Gratton then the club will likely disappear off a cliff, the guy is the ultimate gentlemans sausage.sirocco7 wrote: To be honest SG leaving maybe a good thing. Don’t get me wrong he’s done a brilliant job but ultimately he’s not a business man he’s a former coal miner and rugby coach. A new CEO may help us take the next step !
As for Steve thanks for your efforts. I hear theres a head of youth job going if you fancy it.
But then you have to ask whether Steve was wholly responsible and how much the other Directors did. Mark Grattan as Commercial Director is very much in charge of the purse strings in terms of revenue generation. And while some areas have improved, one questions whether other areas could do better. I don’t have hospitality so wouldn’t know, and I don’t do lottery any more. Both of those seem to have gone quiet. Remember Steve brought in all these other directors because he knew he wasn’t a businessman, and needed support, as well as keeping sponsors involved in the club who felt a bit shortchanged under previous BoDs.
I know we have a few new sponsors which the club keeps rolling out but just how much has it improved over the last 4 years? Are we actively seeking new larger sponsors? Like I’ve said before, I’m grateful to our local businesses for being there when we needed them but would they stand aside in the interests of the club if we got a better offer? And I’m pretty sure that the club said a year or so back that we had sold our corporate portfolio? Surely our corporate portfolio should never be sold as there’s always something to sponsor?!
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Not sure what you mean by "professionals doing a professional job" Do you mean the sort of "professionals" who were running Carillion? They were "professional" numerous directorships and many many years of running huge organisations between them?The Firm wrote:This is also my take on it. He has done a good job when the club was up to its ears in it but if we want to kick on then we need professionals doing a professional job. Steve would only be able to take us so far, we now need new blood and it HAS to be fresh blood from outside the club. If we remain insular we will slip back and if it’s Gratton then the club will likely disappear off a cliff, the guy is the ultimate gentlemans sausage.sirocco7 wrote: To be honest SG leaving maybe a good thing. Don’t get me wrong he’s done a brilliant job but ultimately he’s not a business man he’s a former coal miner and rugby coach. A new CEO may help us take the next step !
As for Steve thanks for your efforts. I hear theres a head of youth job going if you fancy it.
Steve Gill has done a remarkable job, turning round a badly holed ship, keeping it afloat and full steam ahead to being profitable off the field and successful on it. Not sure how much more he could have done.
As for " I hear theres a head of youth job going if you fancy it" - there will be any number of clubs who would love to have Steve Gill steering their ship and I suspect he will not be short of offers.
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HT has a very valid point - unless you have a corporate Sponsorship list that is bristling with the likes of Microsoft Virgin Apple Samsung Shell Oil etc our door should be ALWAYS open to every single company especially a National/International name.
Have Haribo ever been approached for example?
Have Haribo ever been approached for example?
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A question for those that are ‘in the know’ - how many ‘Gills’ are on the payroll at the club?
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So the rumours
Gill signed clare and aston without dp say so, why would he? Why would dp play either player if he was against it surely he would have just let them rot?
Gill wants hardaker out because hes a cheat and hes shamed the club and hes stickin to his guns , i can see where hes coming from with this one but sounds like stubbornness if hes willing to walk just because he doesn't get his own way
Gill signed clare and aston without dp say so, why would he? Why would dp play either player if he was against it surely he would have just let them rot?
Gill wants hardaker out because hes a cheat and hes shamed the club and hes stickin to his guns , i can see where hes coming from with this one but sounds like stubbornness if hes willing to walk just because he doesn't get his own way
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Given that there’s several staff related to others, I fail to see the relevancy. Mark Gratton’s sons work in the shop, Ben Cooper’s wife is the Marketing Manager. Who they are related to shouldn’t be an issue. Whether they do a good job is.derbystiger wrote:A question for those that are ‘in the know’ - how many ‘Gills’ are on the payroll at the club?
I can’t really comment on Michelle though she seems to get along well with the media. The lads in the shop, for me, always do a grand job and are personable. I know that Marc Gill has done a lot for my Grandad.
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Why is hardaker a cheat a fool yes for taking what's called a social drug but as far as I am aware he has not taken performance enhancing drugs which would have then made him into a cheat,and personally I would definitely keep him for when his ban is over if we don't wait see how many are queuing for is signaturejackknife wrote:So the rumours
Gill signed clare and aston without dp say so, why would he? Why would dp play either player if he was against it surely he would have just let them rot?
Gill wants hardaker out because hes a cheat and hes shamed the club and hes stickin to his guns , i can see where hes coming from with this one but sounds like stubbornness if hes willing to walk just because he doesn't get his own way
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You could see that the swagger wasn’t there from the first game.
Is it linked ?
Who kin knows ! I’m with one or two on here , it just takes ya wind out of ya sales and as Robbo said , I don’t think there will be fresh blood brought in.
But hey , ya never know.
Is it linked ?
Who kin knows ! I’m with one or two on here , it just takes ya wind out of ya sales and as Robbo said , I don’t think there will be fresh blood brought in.
But hey , ya never know.
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Course it's linked. There's a 'disturbance in the force' lol.
With us being such a close knit club and community, th feel good factor or lack of leaks through.
I don't know how or why people are bothering with other threads, this is related to the overall future of the club. I don't think people realise how perilous the situation is.
I told everyone of Hardaker way before anyone else in the UK and the same applies here nearly, people need to clear it up.
Who would YOIR choice be of CEO - f on the club..
With us being such a close knit club and community, th feel good factor or lack of leaks through.
I don't know how or why people are bothering with other threads, this is related to the overall future of the club. I don't think people realise how perilous the situation is.
I told everyone of Hardaker way before anyone else in the UK and the same applies here nearly, people need to clear it up.
Who would YOIR choice be of CEO - f on the club..
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next ceo could be dr marwan koukash as he now wants to give rugby league another go
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Robbo explained why someone like koucash wont come in there are flaws at the club that need sorting or bad things will follow but you get fed flannel i suppose eventually you start to believe it all
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Unlikely I’d suggest.onetiger wrote:next ceo could be dr marwan koukash as he now wants to give rugby league another go
I could see Koukash being tempted to buy the club and be the owner. He’s probably realised from his time at Salford that you can’t buy support and his efforts to build attendances at Salford were doomed. Not so at Cas, where we have a strong base to build from, a realistic prospect of a new stadium that will be in a prime location, the best coaching team in the league and a playing team that he doesn’t need to build from scratch.
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Steve Gill was the anchor when Cas were in dire need of stability through turbulent times. It appears that the business is in a strong position, Cas Tigers has to invest in a strong business based individual who can take us to another level.
With greatest respect, to talk about past Chairmen returning and ‘families’ running the business the ‘back to the future’ ship sailed many moons ago.
Paul Caddick and Gary Hetherington,both Castleford men,invested, planned and delivered a massive turnaround at Leeds and success naturally followed.
In this brave new world, Castleford Tigers has to get a real driver at the helm to build upon the legacy Steve Gill has left(?).
Why not Koukash, brash, astute and financially sound.
This is about delivering on and off the field.
With greatest respect, to talk about past Chairmen returning and ‘families’ running the business the ‘back to the future’ ship sailed many moons ago.
Paul Caddick and Gary Hetherington,both Castleford men,invested, planned and delivered a massive turnaround at Leeds and success naturally followed.
In this brave new world, Castleford Tigers has to get a real driver at the helm to build upon the legacy Steve Gill has left(?).
Why not Koukash, brash, astute and financially sound.
This is about delivering on and off the field.
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Because when Koukash gets bored and walks away he leaves an unholy mess behind him.
Because he'd try to change our name to something like South Leeds or East Wakefield.
Because he's a self-centred, egotistical publicity seeking prat.
That's why not.
Because he'd try to change our name to something like South Leeds or East Wakefield.
Because he's a self-centred, egotistical publicity seeking prat.
That's why not.
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Might be irrelevant in your rose tinted eyes Hudds, but not mine. In order to get to the next level the club has to be run as a commercial business and not 'jobs for the boys'. Yes, we pride ourselves on being a family club, but that doesn't mean that jobs need to be created for all of your family members. Castleford Tigers is not a small family business. I personally think there is a lot more to this than has been rumoured on here.HuddsTigers wrote:Given that there’s several staff related to others, I fail to see the relevancy. Mark Gratton’s sons work in the shop, Ben Cooper’s wife is the Marketing Manager. Who they are related to shouldn’t be an issue. Whether they do a good job is.derbystiger wrote:A question for those that are ‘in the know’ - how many ‘Gills’ are on the payroll at the club?
I can’t really comment on Michelle though she seems to get along well with the media. The lads in the shop, for me, always do a grand job and are personable. I know that Marc Gill has done a lot for my Grandad.
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Mysterio wrote:Course it's linked. There's a 'disturbance in the force' lol.
With us being such a close knit club and community, th feel good factor or lack of leaks through.
I don't know how or why people are bothering with other threads, this is related to the overall future of the club. I don't think people realise how perilous the situation is.
I told everyone of Hardaker way before anyone else in the UK and the same applies here nearly, people need to clear it up.
Who would YOIR choice be of CEO - f on the club..
I think you could pick pieces out of a lot of the posts on this tread in which you could do a good job description.
I also think that the people that would like the “next level “ calibre person in with a fresh approach, I agree with for all the reasons that have been quoted.
BUT, will / could / be allowed to fit in and work there magic whoever took the roll.
My honest opinion is that there will be a in house promotion that will keep the status que in the set up we have.
Only way I can see any shocks on the cards is if Mr Fulton’s shares were bought. Maybe the present BOD will club together?
Hope I’m wrong , and Mr Gratton does a great job and we quickly get back on last years horse !
But like quite a few on here I’ve been on the CRLFC rollercoaster for over 50 years too and non of this surprises me !
Ps , I sincerely hope the players and coaches can show us that there’s still something to support !
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