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Re: James Clare

Posted: 05 Dec 2017, 20:48
by gateman
I think James did play a few games at Bradford at full back if I remember rightly the lad was never short of pace I remember him winning us a match V hull when he went the length of the field, is he the answer to our full back vacancy only time will tell,

Re: James Clare

Posted: 05 Dec 2017, 22:55
by Le Van
I know what Jamie Ellis said about Benny being moved to full back but now I'm thinking more along the lines of Eden to one which is where we signed him to play originally.

This will give us the opportunity to see what kind of season we would have had last time round if we hadn't signed Hardaker afterwards.

Obviously the number 5 shirt will be fought over by Clare, Lo & the other outside backs now.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 05 Dec 2017, 23:17
by fords
Le Van wrote:I know what Jamie Ellis said about Benny being moved to full back but now I'm thinking more along the lines of Eden to one which is where we signed him to play originally.

This will give us the opportunity to see what kind of season we would have had last time round if we hadn't signed Hardaker afterwards.

Obviously the number 5 shirt will be fought over by Clare, Lo & the other outside backs now.
Not a chance that will happen

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 10:10
by tigerfeat
Gill looked a decent prospect in that game he played before he got injured if your not going to use the young players as even back ups there going to get [REMOVED] off and go somewhere else

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 10:17
by Lofthouse Tiger
James Clare wont be our full back in my view. Cant see why we need cover on the wong either really unless there is something we dont know. If he is here as cover then why? He left originally for game time. He wont be in the strongest 17 so what has changed? Unlijely to get much game time until inhuries happen.

Roberts or Eden at full back isnt an easy one as whoever it is will need plenty of games to settle in. Its a key position and needs safe hands (Roberts) positional sense (Roberts) strong in defense (Roberts)and a burst of pace from a standing start (Roberts again for me). Eden isnt good enough as a full back as we have seen. However what is to say Roberts will be? Roberts far safer at 1 than Eden for me. Leave Eden where he is. No need to move him.

My only concern is we lose Roberts from 6 which would be detrimental to how we play. This would then mean we have Ellis at 6. No massive concerns with this but I see we would have to play a slightly different game on attack as Ellis isnt as explisive as Roberts. Overall not a great concern. We shall see.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 10:59
by Show 'n' Go
One thing that has surprised me about James Clare is his try scoring record. 6 in 5 for Leigh, 18 in 24 for Bradford (I think) and his strike rate for us was pretty impressive.

Will be interesting to see what becomes of that French lad Miloudi who is on trial. Could potentially be a dark horse to take over the 1 shirt.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 13:26
by westyorkylad
Le Van wrote:I know what Jamie Ellis said about Benny being moved to full back but now I'm thinking more along the lines of Eden to one which is where we signed him to play originally.

This will give us the opportunity to see what kind of season we would have had last time round if we hadn't signed Hardaker afterwards.

Obviously the number 5 shirt will be fought over by Clare, Lo & the other outside backs now.
My thoughts exactly when this was confirmed, its going to be Eden as main fullback with Roberts the option, depending which is performing worse for the team in Ellis or Eden, probably using either Roberts or Ellis of the bench.

Young French lad is obviously a project with no first grade experience, I cannot see a fullback coming in now think we're done.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 15:37
by gateman
here I am again, we have on our books the ENGLAND under 19s full back , every time it is mentioned on the forum who is going to play full back, it must fill this lad with confidence that no one seems to think he is worth a shot, Bennys name keeps being put forward as our full back anyone know what is last injury was ?? to sign James Clare with our cover for wing I think the club see him as a full back

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 15:43
by nottinghamtiger
gateman wrote:here I am again, we have on our books the ENGLAND under 19s full back , every time it is mentioned on the forum who is going to play full back, it must fill this lad with confidence that no one seems to think he is worth a shot, Bennys name keeps being put forward as our full back anyone know what is last injury was ?? to sign James Clare with our cover for wing I think the club see him as a full back
England under 19s is a completely different level to Super League. As yet, he’s only ever played against other players his own age. That’s not to say he won’t make it, but throwing a 19 year old into regular super league in a position like full-back risks destroying his confidence and damaging his long-term potential.
Powell sees him train every day and in the under 19s. I trust his judgement on when he is ready to come into the first team.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 16:24
by PSTiger
nottinghamtiger wrote:
gateman wrote:here I am again, we have on our books the ENGLAND under 19s full back , every time it is mentioned on the forum who is going to play full back, it must fill this lad with confidence that no one seems to think he is worth a shot, Bennys name keeps being put forward as our full back anyone know what is last injury was ?? to sign James Clare with our cover for wing I think the club see him as a full back
England under 19s is a completely different level to Super League. As yet, he’s only ever played against other players his own age. That’s not to say he won’t make it, but throwing a 19 year old into regular super league in a position like full-back risks destroying his confidence and damaging his long-term potential.
Powell sees him train every day and in the under 19s. I trust his judgement on when he is ready to come into the first team.
Spot on!

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 16:30
by fast hands
I have to side with Gateman , give the young u'ns a chance, Leeds have with Walker.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 16:48
by TT Tiger
Thought they started last season with ash golding as they didn't think walker was at an age where he would be able to play super league week in week out and he only got his chance through injury

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 16:49
by Oldcasman
nottinghamtiger wrote:
gateman wrote:here I am again, we have on our books the ENGLAND under 19s full back , every time it is mentioned on the forum who is going to play full back, it must fill this lad with confidence that no one seems to think he is worth a shot, Bennys name keeps being put forward as our full back anyone know what is last injury was ?? to sign James Clare with our cover for wing I think the club see him as a full back
England under 19s is a completely different level to Super League. As yet, he’s only ever played against other players his own age. That’s not to say he won’t make it, but throwing a 19 year old into regular super league in a position like full-back risks destroying his confidence and damaging his long-term potential.
Powell sees him train every day and in the under 19s. I trust his judgement on when he is ready to come into the first team.
Leeds did exactly that what's the difference between them and us

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 17:00
by nottinghamtiger
Oldcasman wrote:
nottinghamtiger wrote:
gateman wrote:here I am again, we have on our books the ENGLAND under 19s full back , every time it is mentioned on the forum who is going to play full back, it must fill this lad with confidence that no one seems to think he is worth a shot, Bennys name keeps being put forward as our full back anyone know what is last injury was ?? to sign James Clare with our cover for wing I think the club see him as a full back
England under 19s is a completely different level to Super League. As yet, he’s only ever played against other players his own age. That’s not to say he won’t make it, but throwing a 19 year old into regular super league in a position like full-back risks destroying his confidence and damaging his long-term potential.
Powell sees him train every day and in the under 19s. I trust his judgement on when he is ready to come into the first team.
Leeds did exactly that what's the difference between them and us
I don’t think they did. Walker did not start the season at Leeds as first choice full back. He played one Super League game before June and then a further 9 at the end of the season.
If one of our young players gets a chance on the first team and make themselves undroppable then fair enough, but going into the season with a kid as first choice full back is asking for trouble in my view.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 17:01
by DurhamCas
Wasnt it Clare at full back when we got thrashed at FC few seasons back?

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 17:08
by Shareholder
No he played left wing that day just where we were all sat

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 17:11
by nottinghamtiger
fast hands wrote:I have to side with Gateman , give the young u'ns a chance, Leeds have with Walker.
They didn’t go into the season with him as first-choice though.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 17:21
by Shareholder
I’m sure DP will play young Turner in due course providing he’s good enough. Not everyone who plays for England Academy is good enough for Super League. Although one player I feel we must keep is young Trueman, out of all the kids we have produced in the past few years , he is special and up their with Daryl Clark at his age. I’m not getting a good feeling about him being with us after next year , as Wigan and Warrington are all over him , let’s hope we keep hold of him.

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 17:36
by dude
wed didnt really produce him. we signed him from bradford last year. one who could be very good though

Re: James Clare

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 18:24
by Lofthouse Tiger
Oldcasman wrote:
nottinghamtiger wrote:
gateman wrote:here I am again, we have on our books the ENGLAND under 19s full back , every time it is mentioned on the forum who is going to play full back, it must fill this lad with confidence that no one seems to think he is worth a shot, Bennys name keeps being put forward as our full back anyone know what is last injury was ?? to sign James Clare with our cover for wing I think the club see him as a full back
England under 19s is a completely different level to Super League. As yet, he’s only ever played against other players his own age. That’s not to say he won’t make it, but throwing a 19 year old into regular super league in a position like full-back risks destroying his confidence and damaging his long-term potential.
Powell sees him train every day and in the under 19s. I trust his judgement on when he is ready to come into the first team.
Leeds did exactly that what's the difference between them and us
8 SL titles and several CC wins and WCC winners Better ground, more fans. Apart from that nothing really.