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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by fords » 04 Nov 2017, 12:55

Casmoley wrote:Folk want a big aggressive prop.. he's one of the tallest in the league and you only have to search YouTube to see him having a punch up with burns & knock out cox. So aggression is there! The problem with a sniff of success is folk expect certain signings. I really don't understand how half you lot on here haven't learnt to give lads a chance before slating them. We gave Bailey a chance it didn't work, it won't all the time.. but how many have worked?? I hope he, Ellis, Lo & Clark come in and kill it. I suppose it'll still be same old this time next year even if they do. If it's major signings that are in it for the money & No heart what so ever you're after, I hear Warrington have season tickets available.

Exactly and if we were to sign a quality expensive prop and he plays sh*t then the same people on here will moan its a waste of money and we shouldn't have bought him.

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by fords » 04 Nov 2017, 12:58

duke street 10 wrote:
the machine wrote:We all crave these big name signings but maybe Powell ain't interested in em? Maybe he prefers players with a certain skill set or quality that he can utilize? Maybe these ones buy into his mantra?
Or the budget he has to work with is so tight it squeaks?

We can all look to Salford a few years ago to see what happens when you throw lots of big name signings together. But i'd take an experienced forward to lead from the front in the early exchanges...what Lynch did for 3 seasons until the cavalry arrived off the bench.

Time will tell on Clark & Green...and Gadwin for that matter. Optimistic for Douglas and Massey to get even better (wouldn't have said that a few years ago)!

We have replaced Lynch (who lets be fair last year only played 20mins per game and not every game at 37) we with mid 20 year olds that have some size about them, eager, tough, enthusiastic to prove they are worthy to play in out team.

If they run it in hard and make plenty of yards they will be doing a job for us

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by HuddsTigers » 04 Nov 2017, 13:10

Had a look at some stats last night.

The lad makes on average 7m per carry and that’s in a poor side. When he was at KR, it was 7.5m. That’s up there with some of the best.

For what it’s worth, Millington made 6.13m per carry last season. If he makes metres and goes forward he’s doing his job well.
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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by ERG2012 » 04 Nov 2017, 13:49

HuddsTigers wrote:Had a look at some stats last night.

The lad makes on average 7m per carry and that’s in a poor side. When he was at KR, it was 7.5m. That’s up there with some of the best.

For what it’s worth, Millington made 6.13m per carry last season. If he makes metres and goes forward he’s doing his job well.
Stats are easily misleading
Alex Walmsley made the most metres Last Season and more than the NRL leader Jason Taumalolo.
4256 against 4230
Then he did play 8 more games....

Comparing his Stats to Millo is laughable and a typical blinkered response.

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Post by Lofthouse Tiger » 04 Nov 2017, 13:59

To use stats that say "He made 3 feet more per carry" is embarrassing and means nothing. 3 feet? Really?

How many tries did he set up and or score? How does he link up with his team? How quick is he? Is he good with the ball in his hands?

To then add that he "Plays in a weaker team" is also not a good argument. Question is why is he in a weak team in the first place?

There is usually a very good reason why?

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by HuddsTigers » 04 Nov 2017, 14:22

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HuddsTigers wrote:Had a look at some stats last night.

The lad makes on average 7m per carry and that’s in a poor side. When he was at KR, it was 7.5m. That’s up there with some of the best.

For what it’s worth, Millington made 6.13m per carry last season. If he makes metres and goes forward he’s doing his job well.
Stats are easily misleading
Alex Walmsley made the most metres Last Season and more than the NRL leader Jason Taumalolo.
4256 against 4230
Then he did play 8 more games....

Comparing his Stats to Millo is laughable and a typical blinkered response.
I didn’t offer any analysis with Millo other than highlight that he makes metres. I don’t get why everything has to be “blinkered” other than throwing some actual factual information into the mix. Most are going off on his last club and probably haven’t even seen him play in a while or consistently to make a judgment on.

All of our other forwards including Springer averaged around 7m too. So if our best forwards do it, why is it an issue for him and why is he written off?

Since when does a prop set up tries and score them FFS. He isn’t a full back he’s a bloody prop!

It really is frustrating that our own fans seem to think we have an unlimited salary cap and unlimited money and expect us to sign players that only Casforum has linked us with, which is then republished in other media outlets after the rumour spreads. Not only that but people seem content to write players off straight away. I’ve lost count of how many people wrote off likes of Sneyd, Gale etc only to be proven wrong - same people probably think they are world class now
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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by HuddsTigers » 04 Nov 2017, 14:24

PS the second half was to the last message

Oh and he also had a season ending injury the year before at Hull KR so I’d guess it was a mix of Leigh trying to sign someone with a bit of experience that wasn’t too costly, and also the fact that other clubs already had their team signed up for next year by the time relegation for KR was confirmed.
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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by tigerfeat » 04 Nov 2017, 14:35

Why did he hardly play last season for leigh was he injured ?
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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 04 Nov 2017, 14:37

I will say again I think both Clark and Green will be good signings in the long run and I trust Powell to develop them. The concern still will be: is this it? Is there an experienced proven quality front row to come in too? If so then you fully get behind the idea. If not then it looks risky and disappointing short term.
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Post by Spanishtiger » 04 Nov 2017, 14:40

tigerfeat wrote:Why did he hardly play last season for leigh was he injured ?
According to Hull Daily Mail he had issues with the Leigh coaching staff which probably explains why he didn't play much rugby last season.

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by Spanishtiger » 04 Nov 2017, 14:51

RonnieGibbs'forearm wrote:I will say again I think both Clark and Green will be good signings in the long run and I trust Powell to develop them. The concern still will be: is this it? Is there an experienced proven quality front row to come in too? If so then you fully get behind the idea. If not then it looks risky and disappointing short term.
Clarke and Green replacing Lynch and Patrick.
Patrick played 8 games off the bench last year and Lynch had his quietest season since returning.

Think DP sees JSL, Moors, Cook and Massey as his starting and bench props with back-up from Clarke, Green, Springer and Douglas who are all young enough at prop to improve with experience.

I personally believe that our squad of forwards is as good as last year, with the quality signing of Wardle to boot.

Indeed if it wasn't for Zak's absence we would have a better squad across the board, Lo for Monners and Ellis for T. Holmes both look decent swaps to me.

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by Lofthouse Tiger » 04 Nov 2017, 14:56

People "Discuss" new signings and post wether they are happy or not. Is this fair? It is only what people feel when they see the new signings.

To have a go at people for doing this in the negative because "They havent seen them play" is all good and well but it is odd that the same people dont have the same view when they and others always appear to bull up every signing in that is made when they also "Havent seen them play".

Just saying like. :dance:

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by betts21 » 04 Nov 2017, 15:44

Simple one him or maher as back up Prop both have a year to prove they can cut it at the top good competition imo and worth a one year deal gives us a more direct running prop with size

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by Casmoley » 04 Nov 2017, 17:21

Imo a lot of us were desperate for a prop that does the hard yards, we've signed two. Not fancy, not a ball player just a big man to get us on the front foot.

We've now got moors & millo who can do the fancy stuff, Gadwin, Clark, green who can do the hard stuff. And some youngsters in the mix.

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Post by old cas lass » 04 Nov 2017, 17:27

Casmoley wrote:Imo a lot of us were desperate for a prop that does the hard yards, we've signed two. Not fancy, not a ball player just a big man to get us on the front foot.

We've now got moors & millo who can do the fancy stuff, Gadwin, Clark, green who can do the hard stuff. And some youngsters in the mix.

Not just about making hard yards, though that is a props main job.
Needs to be able to respect the ball and not be a penalty machine.

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by Casmoley » 04 Nov 2017, 17:38

old cas lass wrote:
Casmoley wrote:Imo a lot of us were desperate for a prop that does the hard yards, we've signed two. Not fancy, not a ball player just a big man to get us on the front foot.

We've now got moors & millo who can do the fancy stuff, Gadwin, Clark, green who can do the hard stuff. And some youngsters in the mix.

Not just about making hard yards, though that is a props main job.
Needs to be able to respect the ball and not be a penalty machine.
Yes and I'm sure that's attributed both signings have.

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by gateman » 05 Nov 2017, 10:03

We wanted size James Green 6ft 6ins 17 stone 9 lbs I have just watched him on youtube I know they show all the best bits but the lad looks that he could be an handful and worth his 1year contract

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by Bramley Tiger » 05 Nov 2017, 11:53

we don't want size for size's sake.when he pulls on the jersey i'll back him and the same with clark but I really don't see them ripping up trees.

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by old cas lass » 05 Nov 2017, 12:16

gateman wrote:We wanted size James Green 6ft 6ins 17 stone 9 lbs I have just watched him on youtube I know they show all the best bits but the lad looks that he could be an handful and worth his 1year contract

If you want size gateman look no further than maher.
Sadly he doesn't use it to his best ability.

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Re: Greens signs 1 year

Post by Fumper27 » 05 Nov 2017, 12:37

old cas lass wrote:
gateman wrote:We wanted size James Green 6ft 6ins 17 stone 9 lbs I have just watched him on youtube I know they show all the best bits but the lad looks that he could be an handful and worth his 1year contract
If you want size gateman look no further than maher.
Sadly he doesn't use it to his best ability.
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