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sirocco7 wrote:

old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

For a start that land is worth far more than 400k....

Apparently some as been sold.
So not a full field.

If I can buy that much land for £400000 get me in touch with farmer Giles and I’ll buy the land instead of Lateral.

Huddesfields time scales looking in trouble already.
102 weeks to 2020 you said.
As I see it
The site has to have coal removed.
According to posters in here that can’t start till spring.

Then we focus on road works that are in preparation for the site.
If the site has not yet been secured ( the deal is yet to be signed)
Why would Lateral be paying for road improvements .

You need to work backwards on this development .
The retailers need to commit.
The numbers then need to stack up especially as the developer is chucking in 10 m for a ground , as well as setting aside a large area for a country park.
Probably 25 m of costs by the time roads and cables are laid.
It’s not that bigger site to make that much money.

As we stand there are not enough retailers signed up.
Until we reach that point nothing happens as Lateral/ the developer has no return forecast.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo

a very depressing post Robbo, but i have had a feeling for some time that this is now not going to happen, it has always been too good to be true & usually that works out just that way, too good to be true?

Robbo wrote:Huddesfields time scales looking in trouble already.
102 weeks to 2020 you said.
As I see it
The site has to have coal removed.
According to posters in here that can’t start till spring.

Then we focus on road works that are in preparation for the site.
If the site has not yet been secured ( the deal is yet to be signed)
Why would Lateral be paying for road improvements .

You need to work backwards on this development .
The retailers need to commit.
The numbers then need to stack up especially as the developer is chucking in 10 m for a ground , as well as setting aside a large area for a country park.
Probably 25 m of costs by the time roads and cables are laid.
It’s not that bigger site to make that much money.

As we stand there are not enough retailers signed up.
Until we reach that point nothing happens as Lateral/ the developer has no return forecast.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo

The lack of retailers is a real concern.

Those we do have will not wait around indefinitely and if they go we are well and truly up the brown creek.

Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.

HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.

Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo

who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.

Believe it when your stood behind posts for first game ,hope my arse dont ache till then

One thing certain to believe is they will not build the stadium untill all the retail units are taken .

yorky wrote:

HuddsTigers wrote:Steve Gill said in his last interview that new retailers had since signed up.

Robbo, I can’t get on the planning portal but the coal extraction is only the top layer, I believe (Sharlston Seam) and I don’t think it is the entire site, just where the retail element is.

Coal extraction, roads and the country park contouring all done this year.

Stadium build next year and retail built thereafter.

Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo

who the hell do we believe, this is an emotional nightmare.

I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.

I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.

Indeed & if it has come "from the top" i would have assumed that he was told in confidence which has been broken?

yorky wrote:

I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.

Indeed & if it has come "from the top" i would have assumed that he was told in confidence which has been broken?

How does he tell us without breaking the confidence. Dont also believe because if it says so in planning that its true.

Dez wrote:

yorky wrote:

I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.

Indeed & if it has come "from the top" i would have assumed that he was told in confidence which has been broken?

How does he tell us without breaking the confidence. Dont also believe because if it says so in planning that its true.

But why would anyone tell Robbo? No offence to him, but he has a vested interest for it to fail for his own business. Equally, there’s hardly been overwhelming mounds of positivity over the years.

The club aren’t going to tell him as they probably don’t know the full extent themselves. And I doubt Lateral are going to turn round and say it’s doubtful when they are trying to sell the site .

We have to be realistic in that hurdles will come, and will have to be overcome. But the last announcement was that new retailers had signed up and finances had been resolved.

Lateral have just had their latest planning application passed for the car garage in which the council themselves say they have no reason to doubt the development will not go ahead as planned.

Dez wrote:

yorky wrote:

I’m taking my information from the planning applications. Note how Robbo says it’s come from the very top but won’t name who. And I doubt anyone from the club or Lateral are going to pour doubt on it, as it could affect the actual development.

Indeed & if it has come "from the top" i would have assumed that he was told in confidence which has been broken?

How does he tell us without breaking the confidence. Dont also believe because if it says so in planning that its true.

I’m much more likely to believe a planning application as a true source of information given it’s written by the people trying to build the damned thing. Even if timescales are optimistic, they wouldn’t waste time submitting them otherwise.

We now have planning for the whole site all retail and the car garage. We have 3 retailers signed up out of what 6/7 that have been announced, with more signed up according to SG in the article a month or two back?

If Lateral wanted to pull out they would have done so a long, long time ago.

I’ve been told it’s definitely happening (admittedly with no time scale) by gmi’s head of design Paul Tew

TT Tiger wrote:I’ve been told it’s definitely happening (admittedly with no time scale) by gmi’s head of design Paul Tew

Thats it then its definitely happening sometime in the future #-o

Dez wrote:

TT Tiger wrote:I’ve been told it’s definitely happening (admittedly with no time scale) by gmi’s head of design Paul Tew

Thats it then its definitely happening sometime in the future #-o

Will it be in any of our lifetimes though?!

He seem confident. They want to see returns. Sooner rather than later.

TT Tiger wrote:I’ve been told it’s definitely happening (admittedly with no time scale) by gmi’s head of design Paul Tew

Given they have loaned cash to Lateral, it doesn’t surprise me that GMI want to see it built

It says hes resigned in 2009 at company house