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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 15:21
by sirocco7
HuddsTigers wrote:
Nu Shooze wrote:
yorky wrote:sounds like things are about to start then!
Yeh, on the M62!
They are closing part of the slip roads it seems. I would assume this is where they are planning to park work vehicles as they can hardly park them on the site/main road!

Clearly says it’s for access to 5 Towns Park...


“M62 Eastbound and Westbound Jct 32 Lane closures on slip roads for Highway Access to Five Towns Park”

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 16:30
by Nu Shooze
sirocco7 wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Nu Shooze wrote:
yorky wrote:sounds like things are about to start then!
Yeh, on the M62!
They are closing part of the slip roads it seems. I would assume this is where they are planning to park work vehicles as they can hardly park them on the site/main road!

Clearly says it’s for access to 5 Towns Park...


“M62 Eastbound and Westbound Jct 32 Lane closures on slip roads for Highway Access to Five Towns Park”
Read it again and seen that bit. Sounds positive. Here's hoping. :pray:

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 16:33
by speedy
There are other considerations i.e. soils, and there are rules which have to be adhered to. You do not strip soils in winter, so nothing will happen on that front until the winter is well over

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 22:13
by HuddsTigers
sirocco7 wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Nu Shooze wrote:
yorky wrote:sounds like things are about to start then!
Yeh, on the M62!
They are closing part of the slip roads it seems. I would assume this is where they are planning to park work vehicles as they can hardly park them on the site/main road!

Clearly says it’s for access to 5 Towns Park...


“M62 Eastbound and Westbound Jct 32 Lane closures on slip roads for Highway Access to Five Towns Park”
Yes and in to allow them access to the site. They can’t park on the site so they will have to close the M62 to park all the equipment/machinery to do the road layouts

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 11:09
by mart0042
Would we expect phases 1 and 2 to be completed this year, starting on 3 and 4 in 2019?

Or our can everything start when phase 1 is competed?

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 12:12
by sirocco7
mart0042 wrote:Would we expect phases 1 and 2 to be completed this year, starting on 3 and 4 in 2019?

Or our can everything start when phase 1 is competed?

Phase 2 and 3 cannot start until the reserved matters (detailed plans) are submitted to the council and approved. These are due to be submitted Spring/Summer.... So expect this to be done in the Autumn :) .

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 13:11
by Flat Capper
HuddsTigers wrote:
Yes and in to allow them access to the site. They can’t park on the site so they will have to close the M62 to park all the equipment/machinery to do the road layouts
It would be extremely unusual for Highways England to allow its slip roads to be used as a 'car park' for equipment not being used as part of a Highways England scheme.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 13:35
by sirocco7
Flat Capper wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Yes and in to allow them access to the site. They can’t park on the site so they will have to close the M62 to park all the equipment/machinery to do the road layouts
It would be extremely unusual for Highways England to allow its slip roads to be used as a 'car park' for equipment not being used as part of a Highways England scheme.

Well im not sure if anything is going on however google maps
Traffic update is now showing Junction 32 as a “Construction Zone” with work due to finish in December 2018.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 14:46
by HuddsTigers
Flat Capper wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
Yes and in to allow them access to the site. They can’t park on the site so they will have to close the M62 to park all the equipment/machinery to do the road layouts
It would be extremely unusual for Highways England to allow its slip roads to be used as a 'car park' for equipment not being used as part of a Highways England scheme.
You have to remember that this isn't just the development but the whole road layout from Xscape upto the miniroundabout near the George V.

All being done at no cost to the council or Highways England (who I believe were looking to do it).

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 13:08
by Flat Capper
HuddsTigers wrote:You have to remember that this isn't just the development but the whole road layout from Xscape upto the miniroundabout near the George V.

All being done at no cost to the council or Highways England (who I believe were looking to do it).
Grandmother and eggs spring to mind!

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:20
by old cas lass
Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:44
by sirocco7
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

For a start that land is worth far more than 400k....

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:46
by sirocco7
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

Name your source ?

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:48
by Tigerwood posse
sirocco7 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

Name your source ?
Farmer Giles :lol: :lol:

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:50
by sirocco7
Tigerwood posse wrote:
sirocco7 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

Name your source ?
Farmer Giles :lol: :lol:

Sounds like some more cr@p rumours.

I heard that we were building the stadium out of Lego bricks, I’m not sure if it’s true but it comes from a reliable source who I’m not wiling to name .

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:50
by old cas lass
sirocco7 wrote:
old cas lass wrote:Just something I’ve heard today.
Thought I’d share it with you all.

The farmer of the land as yet to be paid for that land, around 400k
He as threatened apparently to plow the field and grow crops there.
Anyone heard owt, or why the land as yet to be bought by the company involved.

Let’s not get to riled up, it could be nonsence.
Though the source is good..

For a start that land is worth far more than 400k....
Apparently some as been sold.
So not a full field.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:51
by sirocco7
If I can buy that much land for £400000 get me in touch with farmer Giles and I’ll buy the land instead of Lateral.

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 13:04
by Robbo
Huddesfields time scales looking in trouble already.
102 weeks to 2020 you said.
As I see it
The site has to have coal removed.
According to posters in here that can’t start till spring.

Then we focus on road works that are in preparation for the site.
If the site has not yet been secured ( the deal is yet to be signed)
Why would Lateral be paying for road improvements .

You need to work backwards on this development .
The retailers need to commit.
The numbers then need to stack up especially as the developer is chucking in 10 m for a ground , as well as setting aside a large area for a country park.
Probably 25 m of costs by the time roads and cables are laid.
It’s not that bigger site to make that much money.

As we stand there are not enough retailers signed up.
Until we reach that point nothing happens as Lateral/ the developer has no return forecast.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 13:11
by yorky
a very depressing post Robbo, but i have had a feeling for some time that this is now not going to happen, it has always been too good to be true & usually that works out just that way, too good to be true?

Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 15:14
by Nu Shooze
Robbo wrote:Huddesfields time scales looking in trouble already.
102 weeks to 2020 you said.
As I see it
The site has to have coal removed.
According to posters in here that can’t start till spring.

Then we focus on road works that are in preparation for the site.
If the site has not yet been secured ( the deal is yet to be signed)
Why would Lateral be paying for road improvements .

You need to work backwards on this development .
The retailers need to commit.
The numbers then need to stack up especially as the developer is chucking in 10 m for a ground , as well as setting aside a large area for a country park.
Probably 25 m of costs by the time roads and cables are laid.
It’s not that bigger site to make that much money.

As we stand there are not enough retailers signed up.
Until we reach that point nothing happens as Lateral/ the developer has no return forecast.
Right from the very top this is still very much in doubt.
I was told that Friday this week.
Robbo
The lack of retailers is a real concern.

Those we do have will not wait around indefinitely and if they go we are well and truly up the brown creek.