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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Fumper27 » 02 Mar 2019, 18:10

flow wrote:
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flow wrote:does any body actual believe they have all ready spent 30million I quote that again 30million on planning position all ready the dam ground only going to cost 10million . Why not build ground first and worry about rest off the development later if your throwing that much money at it biggest load off rubbish they have come up with yet .somebody posted a bit a go next thing to blame for no ground be built in 2019 will be Brexit seems like that was a good post. :-" :-"

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“More than £30million has now been spent on the project including freehold acquisition of the land, on enabling utility diversion works and on funding a team of over 100 development professionals and consultants over a six-year period.”

Spent it on a tad more than just “planning” :roll: :roll:
Those 100 development professionals and consultants themselves could cost £30m over 6 years.

Always smacks of people making uninformed statements on things they just don’t understand!
People wanted progress. Flow using a couple of full stops is real progress ;) ;) ;)
Your tinted glasses not progress lol
Tinted glasses??? Or an ability to read??? Why would a business not look to progress a development they’ve spent so much money on? Why are you so against the new ground? You wanted news, yet when news is realised you dismiss it as rubbish?

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Robbo » 02 Mar 2019, 19:12

I thought it a better update than i expected.
With all property companies cutting retail the fact it MAY STILL be on is good news.

Lets sit back and see.

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Post by Tigerade » 03 Mar 2019, 09:03

flow wrote:does any body actual believe they have all ready spent 30million I quote that again 30million on planning position all ready the dam ground only going to cost 10million . Why not build ground first and worry about rest off the development later if your throwing that much money at it biggest load off rubbish they have come up with yet .somebody posted a bit a go next thing to blame for no ground be built in 2019 will be Brexit seems like that was a good post. :-" :-"
What a Troll. I bet you have a WF1 postcode as well.

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Post by derbystiger » 03 Mar 2019, 14:02

I’m still in the ‘I’ll believe it when I’m in it camp’, but at least it looks like people are trying to get it started which is positive enough for me at the moment. As Robbo says, ‘let’s sit back and see’.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » 04 Mar 2019, 11:00

At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by flow » 04 Mar 2019, 11:47

mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
I would have thought it would be an ideal place to get one off the big casinos on board in one off the units

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Post by The Firm » 04 Mar 2019, 11:51

mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
NM is 60 sqm so nothing to do with percentages. From memory for this one a minimum 75% occupation was the figure required before construction could start so there is a bit to go yet. I’d say a late summer start is optimistic unless Brexit magically sorts itself out quickly and businesses have the cetainty to be willing to commit to projects like this.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » 04 Mar 2019, 12:19

flow wrote:
mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
I would have thought it would be an ideal place to get one off the big casinos on board in one off the units
I'm not a big fan of casinos but something that uses the space when it's mostly closed. Ie not daytime shopping or a match is sensible.

To make real money we need a second enterprise at the stadium, there are casinos in oz at stadiums. Might be an option If we can't find a sports team to join us there.

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Post by mart0042 » 04 Mar 2019, 12:28

The Firm wrote:
mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
NM is 60 sqm so nothing to do with percentages. From memory for this one a minimum 75% occupation was the figure required before construction could start so there is a bit to go yet. I’d say a late summer start is optimistic unless Brexit magically sorts itself out quickly and businesses have the cetainty to be willing to commit to projects like this.
Sounds like the ones to be announced will take us over the line.

Brexit shouldn't realistically stop something like this. In fact, the build will help bring people in and if they say there'll be extra freight coming in to Hull. It sits well with short break tourism.

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Post by westyorkylad » 04 Mar 2019, 13:28

Robbo wrote:I thought it a better update than i expected.
With all property companies cutting retail the fact it MAY STILL be on is good news.

Lets sit back and see.

robbo
A well rounded and unambiguous post on the stadium, my faith in you is being restored Robbo, one sensible post at a time. :clap:

Having had some limited dealings with WMDC planning on a commercial scale, albeit one much much smaller than this project, the length of time and cost involved to get this off the ground does not surprise me at all.

The bigger the project the longer the delays and the more the professional fees will ratchet up.

A good news bulletin and Axiom should be applauded for the update.

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Post by lurcher » 04 Mar 2019, 17:24

The Firm wrote:
mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
NM is 60 sqm so nothing to do with percentages. From memory for this one a minimum 75% occupation was the figure required before construction could start so there is a bit to go yet. I’d say a late summer start is optimistic unless Brexit magically sorts itself out quickly and businesses have the cetainty to be willing to commit to projects like this.
i bet wakey wished thats all it was. ;) even if it was that low yorkcourt probably wouldn't build it anyway. :(
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Post by The Firm » 04 Mar 2019, 20:40

lurcher wrote:
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mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
NM is 60 sqm so nothing to do with percentages. From memory for this one a minimum 75% occupation was the figure required before construction could start so there is a bit to go yet. I’d say a late summer start is optimistic unless Brexit magically sorts itself out quickly and businesses have the cetainty to be willing to commit to projects like this.
i bet wakey wished thats all it was. ;) even if it was that low yorkcourt probably wouldn't build it anyway. :(
Haha now that is a typo! :oops: As you say they haven’t even hit that figure yet though!

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Post by Robbo » 04 Mar 2019, 23:37

westyorkylad wrote:
Robbo wrote:I thought it a better update than i expected.
With all property companies cutting retail the fact it MAY STILL be on is good news.

Lets sit back and see.

robbo
A well rounded and unambiguous post on the stadium, my faith in you is being restored Robbo, one sensible post at a time. :clap:

Having had some limited dealings with WMDC planning on a commercial scale, albeit one much much smaller than this project, the length of time and cost involved to get this off the ground does not surprise me at all.

The bigger the project the longer the delays and the more the professional fees will ratchet up.

A good news bulletin and Axiom should be applauded for the update.
We agree . Met the new regeneration guy last week that’s taken over from ANDY Wallhead.
Very proactive on many things and the tigers development is very much top of the list.
Still hearing it’s the developers slowing things maybe to get the numbers up? However generally as with most local Auth they are pretty slow
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Post by Spanishtiger » 05 Mar 2019, 01:29

The Firm wrote:
mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
NM is 60 sqm so nothing to do with percentages. From memory for this one a minimum 75% occupation was the figure required before construction could start so there is a bit to go yet. I’d say a late summer start is optimistic unless Brexit magically sorts itself out quickly and businesses have the cetainty to be willing to commit to projects like this.
Might as well be 60 square miles.

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Post by lurcher » 05 Mar 2019, 01:34

The Firm wrote:
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The Firm wrote:
mart0042 wrote:At 55 percent locked in and more in the pipeline,it shouldn't be too long hopefully. There's some big names there.

If 60 percent was the magic figure at NM. maybe this is the same?

The good thing is that this isn't all retail, its also leisure.
NM is 60 sqm so nothing to do with percentages. From memory for this one a minimum 75% occupation was the figure required before construction could start so there is a bit to go yet. I’d say a late summer start is optimistic unless Brexit magically sorts itself out quickly and businesses have the cetainty to be willing to commit to projects like this.
i bet wakey wished thats all it was. ;) even if it was that low yorkcourt probably wouldn't build it anyway. :(
Haha now that is a typo! :oops: As you say they haven’t even hit that figure yet though!
:lol: i know mate, thats one of the things our mates over the common overlook. yorrkcourt (very devious) haven't done any thing wrong yet as the trigger point still hasn't been reached to start on the stadium.
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by gateman » 05 Mar 2019, 09:20

is it time to open up the fans buy a brick, I hope they have kept the £100 I put into the pot a number of years ago

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Post by Robbo » 08 Mar 2019, 10:42

Truth is always best !

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Post by old cas lass » 08 Mar 2019, 11:17

Robbo wrote:http://news.insidermedia.com/c/13xbtlLS ... rubkwMNCJ9

Looking much better now

Robbo
Just read that.
So if the council give us the green light on the 14th, when are we expected to see some actual work being done on site.
It says it will take 2.5 years to complete.

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Post by Fumper27 » 08 Mar 2019, 11:42

old cas lass wrote:
Robbo wrote:http://news.insidermedia.com/c/13xbtlLS ... rubkwMNCJ9

Looking much better now

Robbo
Just read that.
So if the council give us the green light on the 14th, when are we expected to see some actual work being done on site.
It says it will take 2.5 years to complete.
Think that’s for the whole site OCL. I believe that the ground will be built first.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » 08 Mar 2019, 12:17

Its fake news, isn't it? Or at what point do we think it's real?

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