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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » 25 May 2018, 10:04

Flat Capper wrote:Wonder if M&S are still involved?
I think this is exactly what m and s want. A flagship store to show their wares and facility to order online in store with free delivery. A bit like Argos but you can see and try the product on. Free delivery if not in stock.

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Post by cogito ergo sum » 25 May 2018, 10:54

mart0042 wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:Wonder if M&S are still involved?
I think this is exactly what m and s want. A flagship store to show their wares and facility to order online in store with free delivery. A bit like Argos but you can see and try the product on. Free delivery if not in stock.
Listening to the M&S executive's interview on TV, they are closing some traditional stores but opening others to fit recent shopping habits i.e. On-line, and out of town big stores with free parking. I don't know how successful the retail units in Junction 32 actually are, but the place is always busy.

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Post by ERG2012 » 25 May 2018, 10:58

M&S live off their food sales - they may put a food hall in place which will be a good revenue creator

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by mart0042 » 25 May 2018, 11:24

I thunk we are moving towards a shopping centre where you can try on any size and colour of an item and order. It makes sense as most people find what they are after and get it cheaper online. But there is a place for a company so that you can see and feel their stuff.

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cogito ergo sum wrote:
mart0042 wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:Wonder if M&S are still involved?
I think this is exactly what m and s want. A flagship store to show their wares and facility to order online in store with free delivery. A bit like Argos but you can see and try the product on. Free delivery if not in stock.
Listening to the M&S executive's interview on TV, they are closing some traditional stores but opening others to fit recent shopping habits i.e. On-line, and out of town big stores with free parking. I don't know how successful the retail units in Junction 32 actually are, but the place is always busy.
they closed the one in Bridlington last month. the article in the local paper about it said M+S saw large out of town stores as the future.
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Post by HuddsTigers » 27 May 2018, 08:30

21st June - designs will be on show in the Tigers Bar at Wheldon add

22nd June - they will be on show at the Glasshoughton Centre on Leeds Road
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Post by gateman » 27 May 2018, 13:42

over the years we have seen loads of pictures of the design and lay out of our new stadiums,when some one posts a cube of concrete being laid now that will be a picture worth looking at

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Post by gateman » 28 May 2018, 20:41

one of my mates told me there was some machines on the site today May 28th as any one else seen them ??

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Post by Johnlewis1920 » 30 May 2018, 15:38

Designs are ok but without the finances what good are they
Will Phillip Duncan Lunn a director of all associated companies linked to this project announce enough guaranteed signed up tenants for this overdue much needed ground to be built at these display events
There has been too many false promises Castleford needs action now COYF

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Post by HuddsTigers » 30 May 2018, 17:47

Probably not given he's explained in the video posted above that there's some commercially sensitive stuff and that's why they aren't able to announce a lot of things. They've said they're going to announce more in the summer, which suggests they have more tenants already signed up.

I'd also point out that the plan was that they were going to do it through a forward funding agreement with a pension fund (whether that's changed with the Axiom and the new investment provider they're partnered with I don't know). But in essence, someone was going to provide the capital to take place with a final payment upon completion.

Presumably (as discussed historically) this was conditional on a certain number of tenants being signed up of which we've already 3 anchor tenants announced (Primark, Next, M&S).

More info on forward funding can be found here: https://www.first4lawyers.com/business- ... d-funding/
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by tigerfeat » 01 Jun 2018, 09:04

The only thing that worries me is all our eggs are in one basket this as got to happen now for the future of the club
featherstone have being doing work on there ground for the last few years theve turned it into a tidy ground now
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Post by yorky » 01 Jun 2018, 10:05

tigerfeat wrote:The only thing that worries me is all our eggs are in one basket this as got to happen now for the future of the club
featherstone have being doing work on there ground for the last few years theve turned it into a tidy ground now
very true, our ground is on its knees & if anyone looks beyond the pitch they will see the ground is in desperate need of a re-furb & if the rfl go back to franchising we could be kicked out.

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Post by HuddsTigers » 01 Jun 2018, 13:40

tigerfeat wrote:The only thing that worries me is all our eggs are in one basket this as got to happen now for the future of the club
featherstone have being doing work on there ground for the last few years theve turned it into a tidy ground now
But in the old saying, you can't polish a proverbial.

Fev might have some nice stands they managed to get on the cheap but it doesn't enhance the atmosphere, doesn't increase the commercial opportunities. We could do the same by knocking down the Railway End but it would still make it look like we're just glamming it up for the sake of it than doing an actual proper job.
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Flat Capper » 01 Jun 2018, 15:26

HuddsTigers wrote:
tigerfeat wrote:The only thing that worries me is all our eggs are in one basket this as got to happen now for the future of the club
featherstone have being doing work on there ground for the last few years theve turned it into a tidy ground now
But in the old saying, you can't polish a proverbial.

Fev might have some nice stands they managed to get on the cheap but it doesn't enhance the atmosphere, doesn't increase the commercial opportunities. We could do the same by knocking down the Railway End but it would still make it look like we're just glamming it up for the sake of it than doing an actual proper job.
Interesting take on the Cappers patch but not entirely true:

They are never going to have a large match-day corporate set-up but the new stands have allowed extra bars and indeed, small units that operate throughout the week. Their clubhouse is busy most weekend evenings and they tend to host most of the amateur cup finals which brings in a few quid over the course of the season.

Not raking in millions but enough to allow some investment in a team for the championship and certainly a model that could be built on.

For Cas, it's not a question of trying to polish the proverbial but finding the investment for the polish.
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Post by tigerfeat » 01 Jun 2018, 15:51

Theres another old saying kettle calling the pan grimy something or other cant quite remember what it was ...
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Post by Johnlewis1920 » 01 Jun 2018, 17:33

With this project being conceived around five year ago if not longer and around seventy units available and with only three portrayed as taken you must question is the sales team any good the old line of commercial sensitivity is another way of saying we cannot announce any more because there is no more tenants signed as previous poster has mentioned ground facilities will become an issue and without a new ground it does not look good for Castleford

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Dez » 01 Jun 2018, 17:38

To knock what fev have done with there ground is ridiculous. Theve done a great job . In contrast Cas have done zilsh and longer the if and when carrys on the worse it will get . The toilets are embarrassing how we expect women to use them and remember we've just increased general admission is crazy. Sometime soon Toronto will get into super league and maybe other new franchises can you honestly see Cas allowed in a global super league with that ground . One of the worst things for me and sums up our present situation is the Arthur Atkinson gates they are disgusting and disrespectful to his great achievement and memory. Why cant we give them six months to start the project or WE pull out and look for funding to work on the old lady because without us they cant build nothing so who needs who most.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

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Flat Capper wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
tigerfeat wrote:The only thing that worries me is all our eggs are in one basket this as got to happen now for the future of the club
featherstone have being doing work on there ground for the last few years theve turned it into a tidy ground now
But in the old saying, you can't polish a proverbial.

Fev might have some nice stands they managed to get on the cheap but it doesn't enhance the atmosphere, doesn't increase the commercial opportunities. We could do the same by knocking down the Railway End but it would still make it look like we're just glamming it up for the sake of it than doing an actual proper job.
Interesting take on the Cappers patch but not entirely true:

They are never going to have a large match-day corporate set-up but the new stands have allowed extra bars and indeed, small units that operate throughout the week. Their clubhouse is busy most weekend evenings and they tend to host most of the amateur cup finals which brings in a few quid over the course of the season.

Not raking in millions but enough to allow some investment in a team for the championship and certainly a model that could be built on.

For Cas, it's not a question of trying to polish the proverbial but finding the investment for the polish.
It may good enough for a Championship side where your attendances are 2.5k to 3k a week but not enough for a competitive Super League side. Their turnover would probably be up there with Salford, Hudds, Widnes and Wakey.

If they ever did want to be a Super League side, and a top one at that, they'd be in same boat as us. The Wakefield District is in bad need of one decent stadium. Fev may say they're happy there and that's fine for now, but in reality all 3 clubs should have got together with the council a long time ago, back before Wakey sold Belle Vue and built a joint stadium in the district centrally in Normanton, which is equi-distant between all 3.

At this moment, providing ours does indeed get built, it would put us in the best position of being the premier, elite club as I can't ever see Fev getting up and Wakey will not own theirs.
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Post by old cas lass » 01 Jun 2018, 18:03

Just gone by the site on the way to hull.
Got a good view not a thing happening.
No machinery, nothing.
It’s just sitting there waiting for something to happen .

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 01 Jun 2018, 19:43

old cas lass wrote:Just gone by the site on the way to hull.
Got a good view not a thing happening.
No machinery, nothing.
It’s just sitting there waiting for something to happen .
Might be because it’s Friday night and they’ve finished for the weekend?

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