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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by JIN JER » 15 Mar 2019, 09:25

lurcher wrote:
JIN JER wrote:Don't get wound up too quickly, wait and see what the details are. I can't imagine for a minute that WMDC can just take out a loan for a private sporting club and give £3.1M to said club, the loan must have to be ratified somewhere along the line.
i agree to some extent jinj mate my post late last night was maybe a tad hasty in some respects.
having thought about it a bit more deeply i do have a major concern.
when this whole newmarket epic started it was the trust that would own the community stadium and rent it back to the club. (anchor tenants) and i don't think any one had a problem with that. although the trust were warned many times by a cas poster that they had taken their eye off the ball and it would never happen. he has been proved right so far.
my worry now is that this loan is to "the club" which i assume means the said owner of the club.
if this is so mc got the club for nothing and and by virtue of a very generous gesture by wmdc now stands to make £millions in profit if he sells the club. as you say its best to wait for details but if this is true it makes you wonder if mc has actually been in league with *^&"£$+_*&% all the time. he is first and foremost a businessman after all. as always mate we'll have to wait and see.
A couple of points her Lurcher, I'm very poor remembering figures but I'm pretty sure MC put his own house on the line as collateral against loans etc, I'm pretty sure he wiped out £600K of debt and is still clearing debt to date, so with due respect he hardly got the club for nothing.
As for being in league with, I'm assuming you're alluding to Yorkcourt I can't honestly see that for a minute reading all the comments from MC for the last few years he held YC in as much disdain as the rest of us supporters.
Again I myself can't imagine WMDC taking out a loan and "gifting" £3.1M to Trinity per se? What I could imagine would be that "The trust" would handle the loan, the club would pay rental in form of interest repayments of the loan.
I'm quite obviously a Trinity supporter, but as a bloke with morals (too many at times) in these days of food banks, people living on the streets and austerity measures in general it does sit a little uneasy with me. Then again if/when all the details surface I'm pretty sure it won't be as simple as it appears at the moment.
Ps. As another aside, another fear of mine would be, if "The trust" is to handle BV after the loan, which trust is this likely to be, could Rodders trust put themselves forward as the Trinity trust as opposed to the "official trust" that has been negotiating for five years?

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by HuddsTigers » 15 Mar 2019, 10:59

In the spirit of the final Blackadder episode - Goooodbyeee!

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Post by old cas lass » 15 Mar 2019, 11:06


Wonder who the 2 were who voted against it.

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Post by Tigerade » 15 Mar 2019, 11:08

When you read that article the thing that stands out for me is the creation of an extra 1000 jobs (from 2000 to 3000) which is only good news in my opinion.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by flow » 15 Mar 2019, 11:19

old cas lass wrote:

Wonder who the 2 were who voted against it.
Most people are not botherd about political rubbish and back handers .The music to peoples ears is at the bottom off the statement we hope to be laying the first bricks some time this year , gentlemen. Start your jcbs

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Post by Tigerade » 15 Mar 2019, 12:40

Agreed Flow. Get Brexit out of the way. Get another few shops signed off from Axiom and we'll be up and running this year.

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Post by derbystiger » 15 Mar 2019, 12:51

flow wrote:
old cas lass wrote:

Wonder who the 2 were who voted against it.
Most people are not botherd about political rubbish and back handers .The music to peoples ears is at the bottom off the statement we hope to be laying the first bricks some time this year , gentlemen. Start your jcbs
Agreed Flow

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Post by old cas lass » 15 Mar 2019, 12:57

Tigerade wrote:Agreed Flow. Get Brexit out of the way. Get another few shops signed off from Axiom and we'll be up and running this year.

Easy as that.

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Post by sirocco7 » 15 Mar 2019, 14:51

old cas lass wrote:
Tigerade wrote:Agreed Flow. Get Brexit out of the way. Get another few shops signed off from Axiom and we'll be up and running this year.

Easy as that.

Yes.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by Tigerade » 15 Mar 2019, 19:22

From Wakefield Express:-

https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/political-turmoil-blamed-for-delay-to-new-castleford-tigers-stadium-1-9651849

Councillor Glenn Burton going a bit OTT when he describes our current ground......"Most visiting supporters travelling to Castleford will use the M62, whether they're at the Wheldon Road stadium or not, if I can call it a stadium. It's abysmal really. The facilities there, for disabled people especially, are an absolute disgrace. It must be the only iron clad stadium belonging to any sport left in the country. If there's another one I'd like to know about it. Even amateur football clubs have had to up their game. The sooner the club moves from there the better."

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Post by derbystiger » 15 Mar 2019, 19:39

Tigerade wrote:From Wakefield Express:-

https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9651849

Councillor Glenn Burton going a bit OTT when he describes our current ground......"Most visiting supporters travelling to Castleford will use the M62, whether they're at the Wheldon Road stadium or not, if I can call it a stadium. It's abysmal really. The facilities there, for disabled people especially, are an absolute disgrace. It must be the only iron clad stadium belonging to any sport left in the country. If there's another one I'd like to know about it. Even amateur football clubs have had to up their game. The sooner the club moves from there the better."
I do agree 100% with one things though - the facilities (or lack of) for people with disabilities are an absolute disgrace, no argument with that one.

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Post by yorky » 15 Mar 2019, 19:52

Tigerade wrote:From Wakefield Express:-

https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9651849

Councillor Glenn Burton going a bit OTT when he describes our current ground......"Most visiting supporters travelling to Castleford will use the M62, whether they're at the Wheldon Road stadium or not, if I can call it a stadium. It's abysmal really. The facilities there, for disabled people especially, are an absolute disgrace. It must be the only iron clad stadium belonging to any sport left in the country. If there's another one I'd like to know about it. Even amateur football clubs have had to up their game. The sooner the club moves from there the better."
its exactly why we need the new ground not only for spectators but facilities for the players & everyone involved with the club.

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Post by cogito ergo sum » 15 Mar 2019, 20:18

He's not wrong, but he's not telling us anything we don't know, so we don't need our faces rubbing in it.
My pal is a wheelchair user, and it's not until you're faced with that that you notice how poor the provision is. We make our way behind the posts at the railway end because the view from the allocated area is so bad, and most fans are considerate and shuffle along to make room, but provision should be better.

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by flow » 15 Mar 2019, 23:50

interesting just announced on news Knaresborough going to get a new 250million futuristic retail and leisure park . Hope this don't give retail business who s being looking at axiom another option 15miles away just are luck .

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Post by Nobody » 15 Mar 2019, 23:54

We are bang in middle of M62, M1 and A1 so can't see it having ant effect to be honest. Stores are going to want to rent where most people will be passing through. Plus we already have Xscape and Junction 32 pulling people in.
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Post by HuddsTigers » 16 Mar 2019, 00:15

The one in Knaresborough is an Agri-food Park with restaurants and food outlets, and a farm.

Not retail or shopping. It is based on FICO Eataly in Bologna.
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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by flow » 16 Mar 2019, 00:28

HuddsTigers wrote:The one in Knaresborough is an Agri-food Park with restaurants and food outlets, and a farm.

Not retail or shopping. It is based on FICO Eataly in Bologna.
yes but want a percentage off axiom units going to be a variety off restaurants and food outlets not just retail . Shunt matter any way like another poster said axiom is in the prime position, only way they would go to Knaresborough project is if the units rents was very lot cheaper . funny just looking for a film to watch on show box game across a horror film called the axiom :roll: :roll:

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Post by HuddsTigers » 16 Mar 2019, 08:17

I believe Axiom Eats is more going to be like Trinity Leeds with pop-ups and street food type sellers than chain restaurants. They have already got a company involved called The Big Bus Company (?) I think, converting old buses into catering units.
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Post by derkster » 16 Mar 2019, 12:05

flow wrote:interesting just announced on news Knaresborough going to get a new 250million futuristic retail and leisure park . Hope this don't give retail business who s being looking at axiom another option 15miles away just are luck .
Has Knaresborough moved closer to cas? its 26 mile away. White rose is 15 milesish with meadowhall 35miles. Im sure they will have taken all this into account before proposing the development

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Re: New Ground for Cas or NOT !

Post by lurcher » 16 Mar 2019, 14:24

Nobody wrote:We are bang in middle of M62, M1 and A1 so can't see it having ant effect to be honest. Stores are going to want to rent where most people will be passing through. Plus we already have Xscape and Junction 32 pulling people in.
if i remember rightly when they proposed building xscape they said 12 million people lived within an hours drive away.
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