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Reduced Strike

Post by SuffolkTiger » 22 Oct 2017, 14:08

The ZH/full back situation is a huge dilemma for us and could result in our attack being severely blunted.

As well as his calming defensive capabilities he offered a multitude of offensive aspects:

- chiming in the line to great effect
- devastating broken field running from deep
- speed to burn
- putting doubt in opposition defences

Unless we replace like for like then we go backwards. He's world class - that will be impossible/too expensive. As a result, we have a real problem.

Putting the young lads in sounds great but it's a cheap damage limitation option.

Moving Benny or Greg to FB actually weakens us even further as they aren't anywhere near as good at FB and they will also need replacing.

Very frustrating situation - especially after such a brilliant season.

Hope DP has every opportunity to sort it.

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Post by gateman » 22 Oct 2017, 14:19

massive hole left without ZAC but as always we shall overcome , we have had world class players leave us many times in the past lured by money , we are more stable on this front as now , not so long ago with the season we have just had we would have seen a number of our other players going to other clubs,

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Post by Casmoley » 22 Oct 2017, 14:21

SuffolkTiger wrote:The ZH/full back situation is a huge dilemma for us and could result in our attack being severely blunted.

As well as his calming defensive capabilities he offered a multitude of offensive aspects:

- chiming in the line to great effect
- devastating broken field running from deep
- speed to burn
- putting doubt in opposition defences

Unless we replace like for like then we go backwards. He's world class - that will be impossible/too expensive. As a result, we have a real problem.

Putting the young lads in sounds great but it's a cheap damage limitation option.

Moving Benny or Greg to FB actually weakens us even further as they aren't anywhere near as good at FB and they will also need replacing.

Very frustrating situation - especially after such a brilliant season.

Hope DP has every opportunity to sort it.

Let's also have patience. At Leeds ZH wasn't known for his attacking game. DP added that to his game. Whoever takes his place let's not judge them until a handful of games in that role.

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Post by North Leeds Tiger » 22 Oct 2017, 14:24

It was only 12 months ago that we were worrying on how to replace Luke Dorn. In Powell we trust

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Post by Casmoley » 22 Oct 2017, 14:30

North Leeds Tiger wrote:It was only 12 months ago that we were worrying on how to replace Luke Dorn. In Powell we trust

Same when Eden replaced Denny.

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Post by HuddsTigers » 22 Oct 2017, 14:56

Actually think Eden is as good as Hardaker in attack. Defensively not so. Eden certainly has pace and is a good broken field runner. We saw that in the GF when he nearly went all the way off the free play.
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Post by Lofthouse Tiger » 22 Oct 2017, 15:12

Simple fact is there isnt a like for like replacement for him and if there was he wouldnt be allowed to leave........unless he has baggage as ZH did/does.

The club has to start again and pick up the best available option it can and move on. Cant ask for much more really.

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Post by braytontiger » 22 Oct 2017, 16:00

SuffolkTiger wrote:The ZH/full back situation is a huge dilemma for us and could result in our attack being severely blunted.

As well as his calming defensive capabilities he offered a multitude of offensive aspects:

- chiming in the line to great effect
- devastating broken field running from deep
- speed to burn
- putting doubt in opposition defences

Unless we replace like for like then we go backwards. He's world class - that will be impossible/too expensive. As a result, we have a real problem.

Putting the young lads in sounds great but it's a cheap damage limitation option.

Moving Benny or Greg to FB actually weakens us even further as they aren't anywhere near as good at FB and they will also need replacing.

Very frustrating situation - especially after such a brilliant season.

Hope DP has every opportunity to sort it.
Ben Roberts is has close has we are going to get to Zak that's available IMO.has a broken field runner he's quality he knows our plays and he's an outstanding defender.what we don't know is how well can he control our defensive line and how's his positioning.the other doubt is that he's not the most durable player. The only player in the uk I'd be interested in would be Niall evalds but would he bring more to the table than benny plus he's not available and Salford has much has they need money there not going to give him away.

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Post by Squaddie86 » 22 Oct 2017, 18:35

SuffolkTiger wrote: Unless we replace like for like then we go backwards.

He's the best fullback in the country. There is no like-for-like replacement. We need to accept this and move on.

Slater and Boyd aren't available (and if they were they're certainly not in our price range), so whoever does get signed (if indeed anyone does - I am of the opinion that Roberts will get the number 1 shirt next season) will never live up to Zak, this means the rest of the team has to step up to the plate.

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Post by peter parker » 22 Oct 2017, 19:57

In the last five years we have had to replace:

Solomona (2016)
Carney (2015)
Clark (2014)
Chase (2013)

Each year Cas have gone from strength to strength. Losing one of your best players is not ideal but it is something our coaching team have proved time and again that they can do. I'm not underestimating the importance of hardaker to the side. For me, he has been the difference this year. However, I'm not in any doubt that cas will field a strong competitive side in 2018.
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Post by betts21 » 22 Oct 2017, 20:09

braytontiger wrote:
SuffolkTiger wrote:The ZH/full back situation is a huge dilemma for us and could result in our attack being severely blunted.

As well as his calming defensive capabilities he offered a multitude of offensive aspects:

- chiming in the line to great effect
- devastating broken field running from deep
- speed to burn
- putting doubt in opposition defences

Unless we replace like for like then we go backwards. He's world class - that will be impossible/too expensive. As a result, we have a real problem.

Putting the young lads in sounds great but it's a cheap damage limitation option.

Moving Benny or Greg to FB actually weakens us even further as they aren't anywhere near as good at FB and they will also need replacing.

Very frustrating situation - especially after such a brilliant season.

Hope DP has every opportunity to sort it.
Ben Roberts is has close has we are going to get to Zak that's available IMO.has a broken field runner he's quality he knows our plays and he's an outstanding defender.what we don't know is how well can he control our defensive line and how's his positioning.the other doubt is that he's not the most durable player. The only player in the uk I'd be interested in would be Niall evalds but would he bring more to the table than benny plus he's not available and Salford has much has they need money there not going to give him away.
Bang on completly agree with this and the only project player I could think of would be Alex walker at London broncos looks a real talent but he has a two year deal there be nice if we could come to some sort of loan deal with them with some of our top u19 so benefits us and them for him

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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 22 Oct 2017, 22:19

peter parker wrote:In the last five years we have had to replace:

Solomona (2016)
Carney (2015)
Clark (2014)
Chase (2013)

Each year Cas have gone from strength to strength. Losing one of your best players is not ideal but it is something our coaching team have proved time and again that they can do. I'm not underestimating the importance of hardaker to the side. For me, he has been the difference this year. However, I'm not in any doubt that cas will field a strong competitive side in 2018.
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Very true. Gives some hope. Bizarrely felt all downhill since the Saints semi.
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Post by peter parker » 22 Oct 2017, 23:24

Mate, sweet caroline came on radio today and I had to turn it off. Still feeling sick about final and the circumstances of it all. Just want next year to come around so we can move on!

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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 22 Oct 2017, 23:35

peter parker wrote:Mate, sweet caroline came on radio today and I had to turn it off. Still feeling sick about final and the circumstances of it all. Just want next year to come around so we can move on!
Long time between drinks. Don't think I will ever get over that final shambles tbh. Unless we end up winning in next couple of years but think that is a big ask. Be delighted to be proved wrong though.
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Post by Fairburn Tiger » 23 Oct 2017, 23:02

SuffolkTiger wrote:The ZH/full back situation is a huge dilemma for us and could result in our attack being severely blunted.

As well as his calming defensive capabilities he offered a multitude of offensive aspects:

- chiming in the line to great effect
- devastating broken field running from deep
- speed to burn
- putting doubt in opposition defences

Unless we replace like for like then we go backwards. He's world class - that will be impossible/too expensive. As a result, we have a real problem.

Putting the young lads in sounds great but it's a cheap damage limitation option.

Moving Benny or Greg to FB actually weakens us even further as they aren't anywhere near as good at FB and they will also need replacing.

Very frustrating situation - especially after such a brilliant season.

Hope DP has every opportunity to sort it.
Some players are impossible to replace. You just have to accept that whoever steps into his boots will not be as good, simple as that. If you can't accept this, whoever gets the nod will not be given a fair chance. They will need a lot of support, not comparisons with Zak.

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