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by HuddsTigers » 09 Dec 2017, 16:00
Sharlotiger wrote:The fact is we are a worse side on paper than last season without a doubt, a half back returning who Powell didn't think good enough for the role in 2014 and Roberts is not a patch on Hardaker at the back.
We have also not solved our problem front row area with poor recruitment there. Next season could be a tough one,I just hope we don't follow the same path of the 2 previous LLS winners.
A half back that Powell offered a new deal to, which HE turned down because of promise of first team rugby.
A front row area where Lynch was a bit part and player and Patrick spent three quarters of it in the stand.
Barring Hardaker the rest of the starting 17 is the same.
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by Sharlotiger » 09 Dec 2017, 18:03
HuddsTigers wrote:Sharlotiger wrote:The fact is we are a worse side on paper than last season without a doubt, a half back returning who Powell didn't think good enough for the role in 2014 and Roberts is not a patch on Hardaker at the back.
We have also not solved our problem front row area with poor recruitment there. Next season could be a tough one,I just hope we don't follow the same path of the 2 previous LLS winners.
A half back that Powell offered a new deal to, which HE turned down because of promise of first team rugby.
A front row area where Lynch was a bit part and player and Patrick spent three quarters of it in the stand.
Barring Hardaker the rest of the starting 17 is the same.
So Ellis ( a player Powell only really used as a hooker) is a better option at half back than Roberts? the problem in our front row area was there before last season and with Lynch now being off the wages bill it was hoped that a quality front rower would have been brought in, a area in the tough conditions we struggled in. But a alas no , we recruit Wardle for the back row, a position we had well covered and we will then play JSL in the front row instead of the back row where he showed he was far more effective.
Poor recruitment I feel, I like Wardle but surely a good prop was far more important.
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by HuddsTigers » 09 Dec 2017, 19:31
Roberts who many fans were calling crap, injury-prone and whatever else last season?
I like Roberts but his kicking game at times isn’t good and he isn’t consistent enough either. Ellis has a good kicking game and time will tell whether it is the right move.
He only used Ellis as hooker last time because Sneyd ripped it up for 3/4s of the season and Finn was extremely consistent too.
As for the forwards, none of us know how Green or Clark are going to go. Nor how much Daryl Powell will improve them or get extra % out of them. I’m not prepared to write off our recruitment before they have stepped out in a new team, new ethos, new training and fitness regime and new philosophy.
Time will tell about 10 rounds into the season whether we got it right or not. And if we don’t that’s life. Sides improve, we have no right to be top every season. We can demand consistency and 100% effort but we don’t need to be arrogant like some Wire, Wigan, Leeds and Hull fans.
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by Tiger53 » 09 Dec 2017, 19:44
Seem to be a lot of assumptions that Roberts at full back = Ellis as a starting half back. Perhaps we might be surprised.
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by Fumper27 » 09 Dec 2017, 19:55
Tiger53 wrote:Seem to be a lot of assumptions that Roberts at full back = Ellis as a starting half back. Perhaps we might be surprised.
Who else at half back (given that Powell has already stated Benny will be our #1 next season)???
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by fords » 09 Dec 2017, 19:57
Sharlotiger wrote:The fact is we are a worse side on paper than last season without a doubt, a half back returning who Powell didn't think good enough for the role in 2014 and Roberts is not a patch on Hardaker at the back.
We have also not solved our problem front row area with poor recruitment there. Next season could be a tough one,I just hope we don't follow the same path of the 2 previous LLS winners.
Have a word with yourself. Barring hardaker were no worse if not better.
Lunch and Patrick who must have played a dozen games between them last year have been replaced with 2 hungry young sizeable blokes. Can't do any worse than 2 that hardly played.
Roberts kicking game is crap let's be honest 90% of the time. Ellis has a cracking kicking game to compliment Gale's. Roberts running game is well suited to FB. Whether his defence and catching is as good as zak will remain to be seen.
Lo again will be just as good a monners was.
Wardle improves our starting 13.
Trueman more game time this year. He is or will be outstanding
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by tigerfeat » 09 Dec 2017, 20:27
Im sure the main signing for next year will be a big prop forward we seem to make that one good signing like wardle a season unless theres a major injury crisis we will be there abouts only doubt would be how the new full back will go and if we can put right that poor performance at old trafford if we reach another final which i think we can
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by Tiger53 » 09 Dec 2017, 20:57
Fumper27 wrote:Tiger53 wrote:Seem to be a lot of assumptions that Roberts at full back = Ellis as a starting half back. Perhaps we might be surprised.
Who else at half back (given that Powell has already stated Benny will be our #1 next season)???
You would think so wouldn't you? Strange things happen though.
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by Le Van » 09 Dec 2017, 23:03
Tiger53 wrote:Fumper27 wrote:Tiger53 wrote:Seem to be a lot of assumptions that Roberts at full back = Ellis as a starting half back. Perhaps we might be surprised.
Who else at half back (given that Powell has already stated Benny will be our #1 next season)???
You would think so wouldn't you? Strange things happen though.
Has anyone thought of Luke at 6 and Jake at 7 ?
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by jackknife » 10 Dec 2017, 06:03
Le Van wrote:Tiger53 wrote:Fumper27 wrote:Tiger53 wrote:Seem to be a lot of assumptions that Roberts at full back = Ellis as a starting half back. Perhaps we might be surprised.
Who else at half back (given that Powell has already stated Benny will be our #1 next season)???
You would think so wouldn't you? Strange things happen though.
Has anyone thought of Luke at 6 and Jake at 7 ?
Jake will get a few games but i doubt he will start the season as 1 of the startin halfs.
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by Tamworth Tiger » 10 Dec 2017, 08:01
Sharlotiger wrote:The fact is we are a worse side on paper than last season without a doubt, a half back returning who Powell didn't think good enough for the role in 2014 and Roberts is not a patch on Hardaker at the back.
We have also not solved our problem front row area with poor recruitment there. Next season could be a tough one,I just hope we don't follow the same path of the 2 previous LLS winners.
Powell seems more than happy with the squad and particularly Benny at full back from the article I think from the Pontefract and Cas someone posted yesterday. It's convinced me, although I didn't need much convincing. Worth a read though. Didnt get the impression anyone else was coming in.
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by tigerfeat » 10 Dec 2017, 10:15
On trueman powell said friday hes the most promising half back in the english game with a full pre season behind him hel be pushing for a early chance
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by gateman » 10 Dec 2017, 10:57
With the exception of SILLY ZAK we look stronger, Andy Lynch no doubt a top class prop went on a season to long, only playing to half the level he had been in the past,his replacements Green Clark and Douglas back from loan will be pushing to get in the first team, Monaghan another that had just gone by his sell bye date, replaced by Garry LOW and James Clare, Full back is going to a hard one to fill Benny tweeted that he was going to see a specialist fingers crossed he would be OK as we have heard nothing hopefully no news is good news, the friendly's will give us an indication who that will be if Benny is absent
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by PSTiger » 10 Dec 2017, 11:29
gateman wrote:With the exception of SILLY ZAK we look stronger, Andy Lynch no doubt a top class prop went on a season to long, only playing to half the level he had been in the past,his replacements Green Clark and Douglas back from loan will be pushing to get in the first team, Monaghan another that had just gone by his sell bye date, replaced by Garry LOW and James Clare, Full back is going to a hard one to fill Benny tweeted that he was going to see a specialist fingers crossed he would be OK as we have heard nothing hopefully no news is good news, the friendly's will give us an indication who that will be if Benny is absent
I hope we get to see Douglas this season. I know it was only one game he played for us so far but didn’t look out of place at all. He showed far more in that match than Maher has done in any for me.
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by gateman » 10 Dec 2017, 12:47
I am also looking forward to seeing Douglas he looked a good player when he made is debut at St Helens with a year out on loan getting MOM on a few occasions he hopefully he will have come on a treat ,
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by gateman » 15 Dec 2017, 17:09
Looks like Benny for the number one shirt, any news on his visit to the specialist that he tweeted that he was going to see ??, back up full backs may be Clare and young Turner
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by orrsome » 15 Dec 2017, 20:00
flood light tiger wrote:In todays paper we have taken Amine Miloudi on a pre season trial
I heard that he had come over for pre-season training and hadn't cut it so he'd been rejected and gone back to France????
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by gateman » 19 Dec 2017, 09:15
Our coach looks like he will be giving Benny the full back roll in my eyes the hardest position to play, with the high bombs being put up to stand and be clattered by the opposition , at 31 i don't think Benny will be relishing the task plus the lad seems to have a few injury problems we will have to wait and see on that one, James Clare i think as been brought in to cover the full back position with our abundance of wingers the lad is tall and fast with a good try scoring record i don't think he will let us down if pressed into service, Callum Turner the only specialist full back at the club having played for England under 19s our coach may think him not ready as yet but one for the future , Greg Eden great winger full back a BIG NO