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Re: Gadwin

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 00:22
by lurcher
I've said it before but he's highly rated by the more senior props.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 07:03
by dude
lurcher wrote:I've said it before but he's highly rated by the more senior props.
that didnt count for much IMO. there hardly going to turn round and say they dont think there good enough are they when asked the question at a cas event

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 00:16
by lurcher
the question wasn't particularly asked about gadwin. just who were the most promising youngsters. millo could have just refrained from mentioning gadwin if he so wanted but he chose to express his own opinion of him.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 08:42
by gateman
it would be great if Gadwin produced some of the form we have only had glimpses of this season on a weekly basis , he as come on and lifted the crowd with a couple of barnstorming runs only to then go AWL , Question, is it his fitness or his desire to play, there is just something lacking if Darrell can sort him out he as still chance to be one of the top props in the game

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 20:57
by fords
gateman wrote:it would be great if Gadwin produced some of the form we have only had glimpses of this season on a weekly basis , he as come on and lifted the crowd with a couple of barnstorming runs only to then go AWL , Question, is it his fitness or his desire to play, there is just something lacking if Darrell can sort him out he as still chance to be one of the top props in the game
We need some size and go forward especially against Saints and Hull so why cant this lad get a game ?. He should provide both in buckets

Only thing i can think is he cant seem to do many mins or is it just that DP dont trust him ? He will never get big game experience if he never plays

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 00:06
by lurcher
just watched back the first game of the season against leigh. gadwin was excellent and the sky team were really bigging him up. he's deffo got it if we can bring it out consistently.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 08:49
by gateman
When I started this post, like every one else I could not understand why a young fella of Gadwins ability was not showing it,last game V Catalan Tom Holmes took the bench spot when I would have thought being Gadwins old club he would have been picked and raring to go, I keep wondering if he as dropped out of Darrel's plans for some reason ??

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 08:55
by tigerfeat
Ever thought he might be struggling with some kind of injury ?

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 09:15
by gateman
Your guess is as good as mine, we know of all the other players that have been injured and their progress, I have not seen nothing mentioned RE Gadwin

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 09:37
by cogito ergo sum
Don't think it's a mystery, DP doesn't think he's doing enough.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 11:54
by fords
cogito ergo sum wrote:Don't think it's a mystery, DP doesn't think he's doing enough.
Lets hope somebody is going to replace him then if he's potentially not good enough. Assuming this is the reason.

Really is a strange one this

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 13:20
by mart0042
tigerfeat wrote:Ever thought he might be struggling with some kind of injury ?
Maher looked like the real deal but unknown to us was suffering with a sternum injury. I think we'll see both come good next year.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 16:08
by gateman
I do hope you are right we need some one to fill in for Andy Lynch, big Will as certainly got the size but yet to prove him self even before his injury lets hope he is a late developer

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 22:27
by Mysterio
As promising as Gadwin is, he's probably the only player In the squad that I pull my hair out at.

He looks clumsy and lazy (or just lazy) getting to his feet.

He sometimes looks disinterested, especially in D. His lateral movement is poor; he's exposed at marker and around the ruck, and he's his peers don't have full trust in him in this regard, it's obvious.

His game is too loose in Attack. His concentration is abysmal if you ask me.

On the other side of the coin,he can be truly dominant in both attack and defence! He's an enigma !

The fact is this - he's a weak link overall.

He can go for me. Especially if we manage to do the right deal. For example, because Gadwin currently holds stock (or seems to) it is not inconceivable that a club would maybe swap an excellent player for him, or pay a fair fee.

I'd take walmsley, fifita, etc.

But the one I'd really go after would be ikahihifo (sp?)

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 22:33
by Mysterio
As promising as Gadwin is, he's probably the only player In the squad that I pull my hair out at.

He looks clumsy and lazy (or just lazy) getting to his feet.

He sometimes looks disinterested, especially in D. His lateral movement is poor; he's exposed at marker and around the ruck, and he's his peers don't have full trust in him in this regard, it's obvious.

His game is too loose in Attack. His concentration is abysmal if you ask me.

On the other side of the coin,he can be truly dominant in both attack and defence! He's an enigma !

The fact is this - he's a weak link overall.

He can go for me. Especially if we manage to do the right deal. For example, because Gadwin currently holds stock (or seems to) it is not inconceivable that a club would maybe swap an excellent player for him, or pay a fair fee.

I'd take walmsley, fifita, etc in place of.

But the one I'd really go after would be ikahihifo (sp?)

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 22:50
by Herbert Latch
Mysterio wrote:As promising as Gadwin is, he's probably the only player In the squad that I pull my hair out at.

He looks clumsy and lazy (or just lazy) getting to his feet.

He sometimes looks disinterested, especially in D. His lateral movement is poor; he's exposed at marker and around the ruck, and he's his peers don't have full trust in him in this regard, it's obvious.

His game is too loose in Attack. His concentration is abysmal if you ask me.

On the other side of the coin,he can be truly dominant in both attack and defence! He's an enigma !

The fact is this - he's a weak link overall.

He can go for me. Especially if we manage to do the right deal. For example, because Gadwin currently holds stock (or seems to) it is not inconceivable that a club would maybe swap an excellent player for him, or pay a fair fee.

I'd take walmsley, fifita, etc.

But the one I'd really go after would be ikahihifo (sp?)
Me too, I like Ikahifio or however it's spelt. He would fit in superbly in our team and is an handful. Unfortunately it looks like he's signing a new contract extension at Hudds.

As regards Gadwin I think the word we are looking for is unreliable. I have no idea what the situation with him is as I do not profess to have any contacts. But I would hazard a good guess that DP feels he just cannot rely on him. And that's the problem really, he's just not reliable, and I say that as one who likes him and would dearly love to see him progress. The thing is also we have many other forwards, too numerous to mention, who Darryl knows full well he can rely on to get a full shift out of. Gadders needs to be more consistent and iron out the little flaws in his game.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 11:10
by Bansley_Tiger
I'm going to bump this. I thought Gadwin was very poor last night, is his head elsewhere? What has happened to the lad? When he first came here i thought we would have a brilliant prob but to me he just seems to be regressing not improving.
He is a penalty machine with a small engine only playing 10-15 minute cameos. Its at this time of the year we need everyone firing and i would think the lad would want to try to cement himself in the team for the semi and GF. I personally wouldn't want him in the team for them games as things stand he would be more a liability than asset.
Come on Gadwin lets see the lad that first came to the Tigers and help us win the GF.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 11:27
by Aid
Bansley_Tiger wrote:I'm going to bump this. I thought Gadwin was very poor last night, is his head elsewhere? What has happened to the lad? When he first came here i thought we would have a brilliant prob but to me he just seems to be regressing not improving.
He is a penalty machine with a small engine only playing 10-15 minute cameos. Its at this time of the year we need everyone firing and i would think the lad would want to try to cement himself in the team for the semi and GF. I personally wouldn't want him in the team for them games as things stand he would be more a liability than asset.
Come on Gadwin lets see the lad that first came to the Tigers and help us win the GF.
How is Gadwin a "penalty machine"? He has played 15 games this year (started 6) given away 7 penalties and made six errors.

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 11:31
by old cas lass
Aid wrote:
Bansley_Tiger wrote:I'm going to bump this. I thought Gadwin was very poor last night, is his head elsewhere? What has happened to the lad? When he first came here i thought we would have a brilliant prob but to me he just seems to be regressing not improving.
He is a penalty machine with a small engine only playing 10-15 minute cameos. Its at this time of the year we need everyone firing and i would think the lad would want to try to cement himself in the team for the semi and GF. I personally wouldn't want him in the team for them games as things stand he would be more a liability than asset.
Come on Gadwin lets see the lad that first came to the Tigers and help us win the GF.
How is Gadwin a "penalty machine"? He has played 15 games this year (started 6) given away 7 penalties and made six errors.

Not sure how long he was on last night, can't be more than 10 mins.
He gave 2 pens away and dropped/lost the ball.
Not good stats imo

Re: Gadwin

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 11:56
by Bansley_Tiger
Aid wrote:
Bansley_Tiger wrote:I'm going to bump this. I thought Gadwin was very poor last night, is his head elsewhere? What has happened to the lad? When he first came here i thought we would have a brilliant prob but to me he just seems to be regressing not improving.
He is a penalty machine with a small engine only playing 10-15 minute cameos. Its at this time of the year we need everyone firing and i would think the lad would want to try to cement himself in the team for the semi and GF. I personally wouldn't want him in the team for them games as things stand he would be more a liability than asset.
Come on Gadwin lets see the lad that first came to the Tigers and help us win the GF.
How is Gadwin a "penalty machine"? He has played 15 games this year (started 6) given away 7 penalties and made six errors.
I was saying last night, think it was 2 penalty's and 2 errors in the space of 10 mins.