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Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:09 pm
by Tamworth Tiger
Sorry I meant three matches, not four

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:06 pm
by viva brad
Thank god Samoa haven't picked Ben

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:34 pm
by da_jimbob_7
Who have Samoa picked?

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:11 am
by takethetwo
Even saints and Wigan fans will tell you Gale is the better half (over smith not Williams ) , but as whole team England don't have the natural skill set for Gale to show his best . He needs players like Junior , Jesse and Millo to run the lines and create the space and who have England got ? Bateman is a quality second row but a different player to Jesse . We have no forward in the country as good as Moors .

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:17 am
by Tamworth Tiger
But the record shows Bennett has not picked Smith and only gone with Widdop and Williams once for the thumping by Australia
He has only dropped Gale once and still has him in the squad, so what's the evidence he's now out in the cold?

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:26 am
by derbystiger
I don't get all this 'international structure' rubbish. We've played structured at international level for years and look where it's got us - nowhere! I'd be putting Williams and Gale in the halves and saying thats it, build your relationship, and play what you see in front of you. The Aussies and Kiwis are used to structure, lets have a couple of halves that can say 'stuff the structure', I'm gonna look at whats in front of me and play that. It's no good having halfbacks that can create and then taking their creativity off them. Look at when they put Rangi in the England team and took his game away from him, they may aswell had me there. I haven't played for a few years, but I could farm the ball on to the man next to me. Lets see Gale and Williams take on the line and put doubt in the oppositions minds as to what's gonna happen next. It might not come off, but at least it'll make more exciting viewing.

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:33 am
by Tamworth Tiger
Great post

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:56 am
by Flat Capper
derbystiger wrote:I don't get all this 'international structure' rubbish. We've played structured at international level for years and look where it's got us - nowhere! I'd be putting Williams and Gale in the halves and saying thats it, build your relationship, and play what you see in front of you. The Aussies and Kiwis are used to structure, lets have a couple of halves that can say 'stuff the structure', I'm gonna look at whats in front of me and play that. It's no good having halfbacks that can create and then taking their creativity off them. Look at when they put Rangi in the England team and took his game away from him, they may aswell had me there. I haven't played for a few years, but I could farm the ball on to the man next to me. Lets see Gale and Williams take on the line and put doubt in the oppositions minds as to what's gonna happen next. It might not come off, but at least it'll make more exciting viewing.


Your sentiment is fine but you have to appreciate that both Williams and Gale play to a structure. It's just a structure that allows them to do what they do best.

Just watch the post-match analysis on Sky when all Cas players have highlighted how structured are free-flowing play is.

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:04 am
by Wildie
I think the side we will see against Samoa wont be the same as lines up in the World Cup. They will utilise the Aussie based players more to limit the effect on the club sides for next month's game, and wouldnt be surprised to see Sarginson play depsite being awful in the minor glimpses he has played for the Titans. For what its worth, I would have Williams and Gale in the halves, with Hardaker at Full Back - but Widdop's form has been impressive for St George this year.

Have we had a dilemma at half back in recent years??! :D

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:12 pm
by Bansley_Tiger
Looks like Mike McMeeken and Zak Hardaker call up for us. Just hope Benny Roberts doesn't get the Samoa call as he can slot straight in at FB with Gale and Rangi in the halves. Oggy and JSL in backrow.

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:32 pm
by stuey
Gale, McMeeken & Hardaker missing v Huddersfield, turns a certain win into a possible loss!!

They should not play International matches during the SL season.

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:39 pm
by Wildie
stuey wrote:Gale, McMeeken & Hardaker missing v Huddersfield, turns a certain win into a possible loss!!

They should not play International matches during the SL season.


You need to learn to play without players to be a team capable of winning a competition. This is 3 players, for 1 match. I know 2 of them are from your spine, but many teams miss these players for a long period of time, not just for 1 game against a pretty poor Giants side

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:42 pm
by Scoopage
Wildie wrote:
stuey wrote:Gale, McMeeken & Hardaker missing v Huddersfield, turns a certain win into a possible loss!!

They should not play International matches during the SL season.


You need to learn to play without players to be a team capable of winning a competition. This is 3 players, for 1 match. I know 2 of them are from your spine, but many teams miss these players for a long period of time, not just for 1 game against a pretty poor Giants side

We have cover,Eden to full back monners on wing.chase for Gale.and loads of options in the forwards to cover mckmeeken

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:50 pm
by fords
Scoopage wrote:
Wildie wrote:
stuey wrote:Gale, McMeeken & Hardaker missing v Huddersfield, turns a certain win into a possible loss!!

They should not play International matches during the SL season.


You need to learn to play without players to be a team capable of winning a competition. This is 3 players, for 1 match. I know 2 of them are from your spine, but many teams miss these players for a long period of time, not just for 1 game against a pretty poor Giants side

We have cover,Eden to full back monners on wing.chase for Gale.and loads of options in the forwards to cover mckmeeken


Exactly, Huds are pi** poor so if we cant beat them still we dont deserve a crack at the grand final

Re: Samoa v England

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:55 pm
by Tamworth Tiger
I just think it's brilliant that there are more Cas players in the England squad than from any other Super League Club
That makes a massive statement about how far we have come.
Good luck guys!