New stadium needs

[c'mon]

Peoples wants and needs, even dreams should not be ignored.
But reality is it must be commercially viable.
A new stadium with facilities that drain the bank, is no better than an old stadium that costs in upkeep.

What do I mean by that.
If you need a gym, build one that you can sell membership for, possibly only to season ticket holders.
If you want a bar make it duel sided so it can open outside the ground as well as a bar servery inside.

If possible create a courtyard area outside to maximise early attendance, courtyard to have eateries and as said a bar.

Lets not forget, we will have the bonus of a public attraction (a park) and car parking, So maximise the ongoing revenue and try to tempt brands that keep returning customers, day in day out, not just rugby days. Brands like Wetherby Whaler, Agrah.
Add a couple of smaller bar and eateries that offer something unique.

Design it to maximise the outdoor space, we play summer rugby but designed correctly it could shield the wind and with roll out roofs and outdoor heating, become a unique venue, summer or winter, 7 days a week.
Our match days could easily become something akin to Magic Weekend where fans mingle before the game.

We are the most sociable fans in Rugby, maximise our social environment to support our stadium.

Add that to the fact that we have a hotel and ski venue on the doorstep, so corporate and team building days should be the easiest sell in the world.
Rugby league, possibly the most team spirited game, a family game. Which company wouldnt buy into a corporate brand like that if they extol 'staff values' Train with a superleague team, create a game strategy, learn to maximise individuals potential, push yourself in the gym, ski even though you never did before, conquor your fear of heights on a climbing wall, beat your work mates at bowling, learn to rely on and support each other.
Every one of those could bring in a commission, including the accommodation.

A five year old could sell that concept. Plus it may bring in a big fish sponsor too. The First Direct Stadium has ring to it.
There staff ethos is just what I have laid out

Cheers
Pete

[lurcher]

possibly the post of the year. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: but we'll await the doom mongers.

[onetiger]

possibly the post of the year. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: but we'll await the doom mongers.

not just post of the year post of the last ten years every things set out well and a good read very well put

[mart0042]

Peoples wants and needs, even dreams should not be ignored.
But reality is it must be commercially viable.
A new stadium with facilities that drain the bank, is no better than an old stadium that costs in upkeep.

What do I mean by that.
If you need a gym, build one that you can sell membership for, possibly only to season ticket holders.
If you want a bar make it duel sided so it can open outside the ground as well as a bar servery inside.

If possible create a courtyard area outside to maximise early attendance, courtyard to have eateries and as said a bar.

Lets not forget, we will have the bonus of a public attraction (a park) and car parking, So maximise the ongoing revenue and try to tempt brands that keep returning customers, day in day out, not just rugby days. Brands like Wetherby Whaler, Agrah.
Add a couple of smaller bar and eateries that offer something unique.

Design it to maximise the outdoor space, we play summer rugby but designed correctly it could shield the wind and with roll out roofs and outdoor heating, become a unique venue, summer or winter, 7 days a week.
Our match days could easily become something akin to Magic Weekend where fans mingle before the game.

We are the most sociable fans in Rugby, maximise our social environment to support our stadium.

Add that to the fact that we have a hotel and ski venue on the doorstep, so corporate and team building days should be the easiest sell in the world.
Rugby league, possibly the most team spirited game, a family game. Which company wouldnt buy into a corporate brand like that if they extol 'staff values' Train with a superleague team, create a game strategy, learn to maximise individuals potential, push yourself in the gym, ski even though you never did before, conquor your fear of heights on a climbing wall, beat your work mates at bowling, learn to rely on and support each other.
Every one of those could bring in a commission, including the accommodation.

A five year old could sell that concept. Plus it may bring in a big fish sponsor too. The First Direct Stadium has ring to it.
There staff ethos is just what I have laid out

Cheers
Pete

Excellent post.

[cogito ergo sum]

Better for wheelchair users, because the current facility is unfit for purpose.

[TT Tiger]

No just built before people thought about wheelchair access.

[Tigerade]

Excellent post Pete (escecially the bit about Aggrah).

[derbystiger]

Better for wheelchair users, because the current facility is unfit for purpose.

I'm with you on this one. The current facilities for people with disabilities are disgraceful.

[Flat Capper]

Peoples wants and needs, even dreams should not be ignored.
But reality is it must be commercially viable.
A new stadium with facilities that drain the bank, is no better than an old stadium that costs in upkeep.

What do I mean by that.
If you need a gym, build one that you can sell membership for, possibly only to season ticket holders.
If you want a bar make it duel sided so it can open outside the ground as well as a bar servery inside.

If possible create a courtyard area outside to maximise early attendance, courtyard to have eateries and as said a bar.

Lets not forget, we will have the bonus of a public attraction (a park) and car parking, So maximise the ongoing revenue and try to tempt brands that keep returning customers, day in day out, not just rugby days. Brands like Wetherby Whaler, Agrah.
Add a couple of smaller bar and eateries that offer something unique.

Design it to maximise the outdoor space, we play summer rugby but designed correctly it could shield the wind and with roll out roofs and outdoor heating, become a unique venue, summer or winter, 7 days a week.
Our match days could easily become something akin to Magic Weekend where fans mingle before the game.

We are the most sociable fans in Rugby, maximise our social environment to support our stadium.

Add that to the fact that we have a hotel and ski venue on the doorstep, so corporate and team building days should be the easiest sell in the world.
Rugby league, possibly the most team spirited game, a family game. Which company wouldnt buy into a corporate brand like that if they extol 'staff values' Train with a superleague team, create a game strategy, learn to maximise individuals potential, push yourself in the gym, ski even though you never did before, conquor your fear of heights on a climbing wall, beat your work mates at bowling, learn to rely on and support each other.
Every one of those could bring in a commission, including the accommodation.

A five year old could sell that concept. Plus it may bring in a big fish sponsor too. The First Direct Stadium has ring to it.
There staff ethos is just what I have laid out

Cheers
Pete

A wonderful dream old boy but in reality we have to accept costs are limited to what the developer can deliver. This is not a downer on your comments but a reality check.

Thankfully, one of the main reasons for agreeing to move to this proposed facility is the opportunity to increase income from corporate facilities, etc. and I'm guessing these aspects will be included but not necessarily on the scale you hope for.

[TT Tiger]

This stadium needs 1 thing that we as supporters can do and that's filling week in week out.

[mart0042]

Build it and they will come.

I think regular full houses at 10k are easily achievable.

[tigerforever]

This stadium needs 1 thing that we as supporters can do and that's filling week in week out.

It needs to be built first !! :pray:

[JINJER]

Peoples wants and needs, even dreams should not be ignored.
But reality is it must be commercially viable.
A new stadium with facilities that drain the bank, is no better than an old stadium that costs in upkeep.

What do I mean by that.
If you need a gym, build one that you can sell membership for, possibly only to season ticket holders.
If you want a bar make it duel sided so it can open outside the ground as well as a bar servery inside.

If possible create a courtyard area outside to maximise early attendance, courtyard to have eateries and as said a bar.

Lets not forget, we will have the bonus of a public attraction (a park) and car parking, So maximise the ongoing revenue and try to tempt brands that keep returning customers, day in day out, not just rugby days. Brands like Wetherby Whaler, Agrah.
Add a couple of smaller bar and eateries that offer something unique.

Design it to maximise the outdoor space, we play summer rugby but designed correctly it could shield the wind and with roll out roofs and outdoor heating, become a unique venue, summer or winter, 7 days a week.
Our match days could easily become something akin to Magic Weekend where fans mingle before the game.

We are the most sociable fans in Rugby, maximise our social environment to support our stadium.

Add that to the fact that we have a hotel and ski venue on the doorstep, so corporate and team building days should be the easiest sell in the world.
Rugby league, possibly the most team spirited game, a family game. Which company wouldnt buy into a corporate brand like that if they extol 'staff values' Train with a superleague team, create a game strategy, learn to maximise individuals potential, push yourself in the gym, ski even though you never did before, conquor your fear of heights on a climbing wall, beat your work mates at bowling, learn to rely on and support each other.
Every one of those could bring in a commission, including the accommodation.

A five year old could sell that concept. Plus it may bring in a big fish sponsor too. The First Direct Stadium has ring to it.
There staff ethos is just what I have laid out

Cheers
Pete

What a great post, well thought out and excellently worded.
As c'mon posts, you're in the best position possibly, you have a unique opportunity with Excape being over the road, a full day out is at peoples fingertips. I don't personally like Excape but there is undeniably plenty to do.
And yes I'm jealous.

[Tigerade]

May I be the first to welcome you to Cas Forum Jinge. Whats taken you so long ?

[lurcher]

May I be the first to welcome you to Cas Forum Jinge. Whats taken you so long ?

Yeah, welcome jinjer mate and thanks.

[JINJER]

May I be the first to welcome you to Cas Forum Jinge. Whats taken you so long ?

Really, because I don't want to be a WUM, I love interaction with Cas fans, a lot of my best friends are Cas fans and I genuinely enjoy our rivalry. That's why. Ok?;)

[Aid]

What I want to see at the new stadium is simple;
a successful trophy winning Castleford Tigers.

[Robbo]

Will the fans stay at the ground post match to build revenue?

Not sure why but seems to me a great number of fans prefer to drink outside the club. Is that a price thing?

Just a quick comment on Supporters club annual awards that we sponsor. They must find a bigger venue as I took 4 guests and gave up trying to get in ,never mind a drink.
The supporters club is a great asset to the tigers and strong facilities at the ground should be provided to enable membership to grow back to the 2000 plus........Would the room at the Civic Centre not be more suitable ,with bar revenue going to the club.
best Robbo

[Squaddie86]

Will the fans stay at the ground post match to build revenue?

Not sure why but seems to me a great number of fans prefer to drink outside the club. Is that a price thing?

Right now its both price and choice for me - all you get at Cas is poor excuse for urine in the form of Tetleys or Carlsberg.

Give me choice. Give me Ales - there's got to be local breweries that Cas can do a deal with.

Give people an actual reason to go for sonething other than Rugby, and they will. For an example of this look at the Oddessey arena in Belfast - it's a hub of nightlife there because they've got bars, shops, and all the other trappings to entice people for things other than arena events.

Thats my take on it anyway.


As for what i want at the stadium... modern facilities for the players, so we can attract the top talent to the club. Cas current training facilties are on a par with my Amateur Rugby Union club.

[Evatiger]

Will the fans stay at the ground post match to build revenue?

Not sure why but seems to me a great number of fans prefer to drink outside the club. Is that a price thing?

Right now its both price and choice for me - all you get at Cas is poor excuse for urine in the form of Tetleys or Carlsberg.

Give me choice. Give me Ales - there's got to be local breweries that Cas can do a deal with.

Give people an actual reason to go for sonething other than Rugby, and they will. For an example of this look at the Oddessey arena in Belfast - it's a hub of nightlife there because they've got bars, shops, and all the other trappings to entice people for things other than arena events.

Thats my take on it anyway.


As for what i want at the stadium... modern facilities for the players, so we can attract the top talent to the club. Cas current training facilties are on a par with my Amateur Rugby Union club.

Agree about the ale mate it's rancid.the COYF lager isn't too bad but not great