Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 11 Aug 2016, 10:46

Yes when we had that great run in '99 but otherwise it was always dominated by the usual suspects

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Post by Dazzyb » 12 Aug 2016, 02:28

The top 3 should go through and 4th play 5th to go through to the semi finals.

Similar to the qualifying 8s million pound game. It gives the chasing pack something to play for and makes the competition more competitive. Like us this year, not much chance of making the 4 but getting to 5th could be attainable.

4th could get the home tie. It would push the top 3 to ensure they don't drop the pace and then drop into the 4th place.

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by Sharlotiger » 12 Aug 2016, 11:29

Dazzyb wrote:The top 3 should go through and 4th play 5th to go through to the semi finals.

Similar to the qualifying 8s million pound game. It gives the chasing pack something to play for and makes the competition more competitive. Like us this year, not much chance of making the 4 but getting to 5th could be attainable.

4th could get the home tie. It would push the top 3 to ensure they don't drop the pace and then drop into the 4th place.
Only problem with that it makes an already congested calender another week longer, pushing international games a week further back and giving even less time for sides to prepare for the following season.

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by Aid » 12 Aug 2016, 23:23

If tonight was an anticlimax then I am up for a lot more! Bring them on!
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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by legionited » 05 Sep 2016, 14:46

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I know this is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but I was curious to see how the table would look like if points were reset for the Super 8's.

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 05 Sep 2016, 15:30

Very pleasing on the eye though!

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Post by Evatiger » 05 Sep 2016, 16:08

legionited wrote:Image

I know this is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but I was curious to see how the table would look like if points were reset for the Super 8's.
How would it look implementing Steve gills idea?8 points for top 7 for second ect?
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Post by legionited » 05 Sep 2016, 16:22

Evatiger wrote:
legionited wrote:Image

I know this is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but I was curious to see how the table would look like if points were reset for the Super 8's.
How would it look implementing Steve gills idea?8 points for top 7 for second ect?
I'm not sure of the specifics, was it 1st 8points, 2nd 7points....8th 1point?

If so:

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Also shows 1st 4points, 2nd 3points, 3rd 2 points, 4th 1point, 5-8 0 points which I believe was suggested on here also.

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by Evatiger » 05 Sep 2016, 21:29

legionited wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
legionited wrote:Image

I know this is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but I was curious to see how the table would look like if points were reset for the Super 8's.
How would it look implementing Steve gills idea?8 points for top 7 for second ect?
I'm not sure of the specifics, was it 1st 8points, 2nd 7points....8th 1point?

If so:

Image

Also shows 1st 4points, 2nd 3points, 3rd 2 points, 4th 1point, 5-8 0 points which I believe was suggested on here also.
Thanks mate.that looks a lot more in the balance than than the current table
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Post by StevieTheTV » 06 Sep 2016, 07:35

Sky and the RFL should that their lucky stars and thank Cas. Apart from the odd result (Wigan v Widnes and Cats v Wire), this Super 8s has been dire. We are the only team that have made games interesting, hence the reason for moving the Saints game for Sky.
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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by dettoriman » 06 Sep 2016, 08:47

My idea for the Super 8's wasn't to quash or amend points at the end of the regular season.

But make the Super 8's double point matches.

Warrington 45
Hull Fc 42
Wigan 40
St Helens 40
Castleford 33
Catalans 30
Widnes 28
Wakefield 20

Now this wouldn't have made a world of difference in the way it is, as Saints have performed well and deserved a top 4 spot in the Super 8's. But it'd still gives teams chances of making up the ground quicker, if they beat the fellow "Top" sides, while still rewarding a strong regular season

I firmly believe this is the way it should happen.
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Post by Mysterio » 06 Sep 2016, 13:23

dettoriman wrote:My idea for the Super 8's wasn't to quash or amend points at the end of the regular season.

But make the Super 8's double point matches.

Warrington 45
Hull Fc 42
Wigan 40
St Helens 40
Castleford 33
Catalans 30
Widnes 28
Wakefield 20

Now this wouldn't have made a world of difference in the way it is, as Saints have performed well and deserved a top 4 spot in the Super 8's. But it'd still gives teams chances of making up the ground quicker, if they beat the fellow "Top" sides, while still rewarding a strong regular season

I firmly believe this is the way it should happen.
How would double points make a difference? When the top sides won again they'd get 4'points too.....??
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Post by TT Tiger » 06 Sep 2016, 13:32

Mysterio wrote:
dettoriman wrote:My idea for the Super 8's wasn't to quash or amend points at the end of the regular season.

But make the Super 8's double point matches.

Warrington 45
Hull Fc 42
Wigan 40
St Helens 40
Castleford 33
Catalans 30
Widnes 28
Wakefield 20

Now this wouldn't have made a world of difference in the way it is, as Saints have performed well and deserved a top 4 spot in the Super 8's. But it'd still gives teams chances of making up the ground quicker, if they beat the fellow "Top" sides, while still rewarding a strong regular season

I firmly believe this is the way it should happen.
How would double points make a difference? When the top sides won again they'd get 4'points too.....??
It means that's we could still make the top 4 with 3 games to go rather than finishing outside for definite mean less dead rubbers and bigger crowds.

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by legionited » 13 Sep 2016, 10:43

Not quite as nice to look at this week, but I've updated the tables as per above.

If all teams restarted on 0 points.
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If teams started on points based on their regular season finishing position.
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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by gateman » 14 Sep 2016, 13:01

I have no problem with the top eight, the rules are set before we kick a ball, as far as anti climax as always I will be sorry for the season to end but the players need to rest their bodies, after the Widnes match I will be looking forward to the friendly's I hope we have an home on boxing day

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by legionited » 21 Sep 2016, 12:02

Post Round 6.

If all teams restarted on 0 points.
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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by legionited » 28 Sep 2016, 14:47

Post Round 7.

If all teams restarted on 0 points.
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If teams started on points based on their regular season finishing position.
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St Helens would have finished 1st under all 3 scenarios.

We would have finished 4th if points were reset or if the Top 4 teams started on 4/3/2/1 only.

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by Tigerade » 06 Oct 2016, 12:51

Ian Lenagan is now against the Super 8's concept :-

http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_237 ... er-8s.html?

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Re: Super 8s, Anti-Climax!

Post by Tamworth Tiger » 06 Oct 2016, 13:17

Lenaghan does have a point.
This was I think the 5th time Huddersfield have finished bottom but only relegated once

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