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Re: widnes sunday

Post by Evatiger » 02 Jul 2015, 14:09

old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
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Re: widnes sunday

Post by old cas lass » 02 Jul 2015, 14:21

Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
Hope so.

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Re: widnes sunday

Post by TheSheriff » 02 Jul 2015, 14:24

Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
That's the obvious swap for me. Bailey gives away too many penalties and isn't match fit at all so in this weather...pick the guy who's lived in conditions similar all his life!

for me, something like:
Roberts
Carney
Shenton
Webster
Solomona
Finn
Gale
Lynch
Milner
Millington
McMeeken
Holmes
Moore

Dorn
Springer
Massey
Cook

It's something different but it's a way to fit the players in.

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Re: widnes sunday

Post by Fumper27 » 02 Jul 2015, 15:20

TheSheriff wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
It's something different but it's a way to fit the players in.
We now have a (good) squad so no need to "fit players in". We play the best 17 to do the job at hand.

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Re: widnes sunday

Post by TheSheriff » 02 Jul 2015, 15:24

Fumper27 wrote:
TheSheriff wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
It's something different but it's a way to fit the players in.
We now have a (good) squad so no need to "fit players in". We play the best 17 to do the job at hand.
And against Widnes, in this weather a smaller more mobile team is probably the way to go.

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Re: widnes sunday

Post by lurcher » 02 Jul 2015, 19:57

is maher injured? just wonder if his nose may be pushed out of joint if gadwin leapfrogs him in the pecking order.
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Re: widnes sunday

Post by orrsome » 03 Jul 2015, 05:38

TheSheriff wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
That's the obvious swap for me. Bailey gives away too many penalties and isn't match fit at all so in this weather...pick the guy who's lived in conditions similar all his life!

for me, something like:
Roberts
Carney
Shenton
Webster
Solomona
Finn
Gale
Lynch
Milner
Millington
McMeeken
Holmes
Moore

Dorn
Springer
Massey
Cook

It's something different but it's a way to fit the players in.
I heard that Dorn is not in the 17 so wouldn't be on the bench anyway.

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Re: widnes sunday

Post by flood light tiger » 03 Jul 2015, 07:44

I would go that that team but Dorn is not playing sunday put maher in for dorn and put Roberts in ay full back
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Re: widnes sunday

Post by HuddsTigers » 03 Jul 2015, 08:22

Without Dorn


Roberts
Solomona
Webster
Shenton
Carney
Finn
Gale
Lynch
Moore
Millington
Holmes
McMeeken
Massey

Cook
Moors
Springer
Milner


With Dorn

Dorn
Solomona
Webster
Shenton
Carney
Roberts
Gale
Lynch
Moore
Millington
Holmes
McMeeken
Massey

Cook
Moors
Springer
Milner
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Post by HuddsTigers » 03 Jul 2015, 08:24

And I hasten to add that the prospect of bringing the trio of Cook, Moors and Springer on all at once excites me at the prospect.

Better than Bailey and Boyle in recent weeks.

Then bring Millo, Lynch and Massey on later on in the game again like Saints.
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Re: widnes sunday

Post by HuddsTigers » 03 Jul 2015, 08:32

TheSheriff wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
That's the obvious swap for me. Bailey gives away too many penalties and isn't match fit at all so in this weather...pick the guy who's lived in conditions similar all his life!
Bailey gives away too many penalties? Since he joined the team we've given away 44 penalties. Only 3 have come from Bailey. I know you hate certain players (Moore, Bailey) but let's put some accuracy into this discussion.

Over the same time frame:

Gale 6 pens given away
Lynch 5 pens given away
Milner 4 pens given away
Moore 4 pens given away
Mariano 3 pens given away
Finn 3 pens given away
Webster 3 pens given away.

He is no worse than the other squad members.
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Post by casyorkie » 03 Jul 2015, 08:43

I think we need to look at the full run in we have and use the squad accordingly.

I wouldn't change much in the backs if Dorn is injured but maybe give Millington on Lynch an additional week off, I thought Cook look good against Saints and would bring him in to start and Springer on the bench, next week is a massive game and a totally fresh Lynch or Millington could rip Hull apart.

I know its one game at a time some will say but if we want top 4 after 2 great results we need to plan how to use the players.

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Post by Mysterio » 03 Jul 2015, 10:24

HuddsTigers wrote:Without Dorn


Roberts
Solomona
Webster
Shenton
Carney
Finn
Gale
Lynch
Moore
Millington
Holmes
McMeeken
Massey

Cook
Moors
Springer
Milner


With Dorn

Dorn
Solomona
Webster
Shenton
Carney
Roberts
Gale
Lynch
Moore
Millington
Holmes
McMeeken
Massey

Cook
Moors
Springer
Milner
Let's be honest that's a bloody good team nowadays. ..2 more signings and we could be lifting the challenge Cup next year.
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Re: widnes sunday

Post by tigerfeat » 03 Jul 2015, 10:38

HuddsTigers wrote:
TheSheriff wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
That's the obvious swap for me. Bailey gives away too many penalties and isn't match fit at all so in this weather...pick the guy who's lived in conditions similar all his life!
Bailey gives away too many penalties? Since he joined the team we've given away 44 penalties. Only 3 have come from Bailey. I know you hate certain players (Moore, Bailey) but let's put some accuracy into this discussion.

Over the same time frame:

Gale 6 pens given away
Lynch 5 pens given away
Milner 4 pens given away
Moore 4 pens given away
Mariano 3 pens given away
Finn 3 pens given away
Webster 3 pens given away.

He is no worse than the other squad members.
bailey looks like he could get himself in trouble that may cost us a game i think thats the point
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Post by Mysterio » 03 Jul 2015, 11:22

tigerfeat wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
TheSheriff wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
That's the obvious swap for me. Bailey gives away too many penalties and isn't match fit at all so in this weather...pick the guy who's lived in conditions similar all his life!
Bailey gives away too many penalties? Since he joined the team we've given away 44 penalties. Only 3 have come from Bailey. I know you hate certain players (Moore, Bailey) but let's put some accuracy into this discussion.

Over the same time frame:

Gale 6 pens given away
Lynch 5 pens given away
Milner 4 pens given away
Moore 4 pens given away
Mariano 3 pens given away
Finn 3 pens given away
Webster 3 pens given away.

He is no worse than the other squad members.
bailey looks like he could get himself in trouble that may cost us a game i think thats the point
Unless Bailey is commanding anything other than a low salary we should let him go.
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Re: widnes sunday

Post by Evatiger » 03 Jul 2015, 12:14

casyorkie wrote:I think we need to look at the full run in we have and use the squad accordingly.

I wouldn't change much in the backs if Dorn is injured but maybe give Millington on Lynch an additional week off, I thought Cook look good against Saints and would bring him in to start and Springer on the bench, next week is a massive game and a totally fresh Lynch or Millington could rip Hull apart.

I know its one game at a time some will say but if we want top 4 after 2 great results we need to plan how to use the players.
The last thing players want when running hot is resting.got to put yer best 17 out there every week for me.
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Post by WF10 » 03 Jul 2015, 12:33

tigerfeat wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:
TheSheriff wrote:
Evatiger wrote:
old cas lass wrote:We've just got to do the job sunday.
My heart says we cant lose, my head says it's possible.

So if dorn isn't playing as lurcher says, then it's as you are with the backs....picks it's self.
Would be good to see springer get a run, but who for.
In for Bailey maybe?
That's the obvious swap for me. Bailey gives away too many penalties and isn't match fit at all so in this weather...pick the guy who's lived in conditions similar all his life!
Bailey gives away too many penalties? Since he joined the team we've given away 44 penalties. Only 3 have come from Bailey. I know you hate certain players (Moore, Bailey) but let's put some accuracy into this discussion.

Over the same time frame:

Gale 6 pens given away
Lynch 5 pens given away
Milner 4 pens given away
Moore 4 pens given away
Mariano 3 pens given away
Finn 3 pens given away
Webster 3 pens given away.

He is no worse than the other squad members.
bailey looks like he could get himself in trouble that may cost us a game i think thats the point
In that respect, I think Carney is more of a liability than Bailey.
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Post by jackknife » 03 Jul 2015, 13:49

Evatiger wrote:
casyorkie wrote:I think we need to look at the full run in we have and use the squad accordingly.

I wouldn't change much in the backs if Dorn is injured but maybe give Millington on Lynch an additional week off, I thought Cook look good against Saints and would bring him in to start and Springer on the bench, next week is a massive game and a totally fresh Lynch or Millington could rip Hull apart.

I know its one game at a time some will say but if we want top 4 after 2 great results we need to plan how to use the players.
The last thing players want when running hot is resting.got to put yer best 17 out there every week for me.
its not always as black n white as that, i agree on paper id have dorn gale n roberts but the form of robert gale n finn is really good and bare in mind dorn hasn't played for some time now so all that has to be taken into account when dp makes his choice
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Re: widnes sunday

Post by Bengal » 03 Jul 2015, 13:57

At some point or another I would just seriously like to see Ben Roberts in one of the half back roles. He is just starting to come real good, and one of his real strengths is his short kicking game, something we have been missing badly. His short kick through for Webster's try v Saints is a typical example, and he looks as if he is just about to get it in real order. It could kill teams in these conditions we have got now, making them drop out etc.

Also, yes there is no doubt he has played well at full back, but IMO he does look though somewhat dodgy under the high ball and I still think there is a mishap or disaster waiting to happen there, depending on the game it happens in.
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Post by casyorkie » 03 Jul 2015, 14:22

Evatiger wrote:
casyorkie wrote:I think we need to look at the full run in we have and use the squad accordingly.

I wouldn't change much in the backs if Dorn is injured but maybe give Millington on Lynch an additional week off, I thought Cook look good against Saints and would bring him in to start and Springer on the bench, next week is a massive game and a totally fresh Lynch or Millington could rip Hull apart.

I know its one game at a time some will say but if we want top 4 after 2 great results we need to plan how to use the players.
The last thing players want when running hot is resting.got to put yer best 17 out there every week for me.
We need to look at the season not this game we should be in a place now where we have confidence to rest a player here and there I do not mean people like gale but rotating props and people with little niggles will leave us strong at the end of the season and hopefully our season will not end like it did last year.

Personally seeing the squad declared id not play Finn and rest Lynch unless another player has a niggle

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