Stadium and Tesco

[ERG2012]

That's how it reads to me mate. There isn't any bending of rules when it comes to health & safty

Nail on head

[I of the Tigers]

Safety won't be compromised in any shape or form ...
The one thing I found strange though was shortly after the Princess St. stand incurred its damage from the gales, etc., the prognosis was that it could still be closed a month later (the date of the Wakey game) ... yet miraculously it was back in commission little more than a week later, in time for yesterday's game. Mmm ...

[yorky]

for those who weren't at yesterdays game the rear of the princes street stand has been cordoned off with scaffolding & boarded up so that no one can get anywhere near where the wall came down. this has secured the area so that the club can get the wall rebuilt without causing any disruption to the standing area in that stand.

Note this is not an official statement its just I was there & saw what the club have done. I do think the club ought to put pictures up of the temporary structure so that fans know what's being done.

[Casmania]

It's ok having friends in high places and having a strong lobby with Wakey Council but as fans we need to know its safe. A lot of fans at Wakey are concerned about the cushy relationship between cas tigers and Wakey council could lead to a lapse of judgment which would endanger fans. Cas Tigers and Wakey Council should put out a joint statement reassuring fans that all is safe and they personaly guarantee it. I would hate to see what could be a cracking opener to the season spoiled by fans been fearful.

I respectfully suggest you think twice before posting comments of a similar nature in future.

To Imply that a possible "lapse of judgement which would endanger fans" may have occurred due to the "cushy" relationship between Castleford Tigers & WMDC is at best disingenuous and at worst malicious in nature.

Are you suggesting impropriety/collusion by Castleford RLFC & WMDC officials?

I would like you to expand on your "cushy relationship" comment. Can you give any examples whereby Castleford Tigers have benefited from such a relationship?

For your information, Castleford, Featherstone and Wakefield have received both financial and other support from WMDC.
Confidentially stops me from going into detail, some of the support given is well documented, some not.

I have had involvement with all 3 local professional clubs, and I am aware, more than most, of the support given.
You may well consider the support given by WMDC to your own club, WMDC have on 2 separate occasions thrown Wakefield a lifeline. In addition, the support given by WMDC to the planning process with respect to the Newmarket development was substantial to say the least.

To imply that one club has received preferential and favourable treatment is simply ludicrous.

[Tigerwood posse]

It's ok having friends in high places and having a strong lobby with Wakey Council but as fans we need to know its safe. A lot of fans at Wakey are concerned about the cushy relationship between cas tigers and Wakey council could lead to a lapse of judgment which would endanger fans. Cas Tigers and Wakey Council should put out a joint statement reassuring fans that all is safe and they personaly guarantee it. I would hate to see what could be a cracking opener to the season spoiled by fans been fearful.

Comments removed - please refrain from posting such childish comments in future.

This forum is about open and reasoned debate, it is not about posting immature abusive comments. If you are unable to get your point across in a reasonable and correct manner I would suggest trying another forum.

It's your call.

Thank you

Casmania

[Adelaide Tigurrrr!]

Im not implying anything im presenting a perception that applies in Wakefield. Some kind of reassurance on safety grounds wouldn't go a miss, unless you don't take health and safety seriously? And please spare me the moral outrage

Raj, your posts are as Stephen Fry once memorably commented on the Da Vinci Code book 'ar$e gravy of the highest order'.

Even though you are trying to hide behind 'this is what some Wakey fans think' you are actually doing is casting aspertions on the professional competance of the Biulding Control officers by impying thst they are willing to risk their professional reputation in some sort of collusion. What rubbish you spout.

The Officers of WMDC Building Control have a duty to protect people. They make decisions based on their judgement of the situation, not because someone at Cas or WMDC has whispered in their ear to ignore a dangerous situation. Their decision can have serious ramifications if they are wrong. Therefore they err on the side of caution.

P.S. I worked in the same department as Pete Smithson and he is one bloody good conscientious BC Officer.

[Tigerwood posse]

It's ok having friends in high places and having a strong lobby with Wakey Council but as fans we need to know its safe. A lot of fans at Wakey are concerned about the cushy relationship between cas tigers and Wakey council could lead to a lapse of judgment which would endanger fans. Cas Tigers and Wakey Council should put out a joint statement reassuring fans that all is safe and they personaly guarantee it. I would hate to see what could be a cracking opener to the season spoiled by fans been fearful.

Comments removed - please refrain from posting such childish comments in future.

This forum is about open and reasoned debate, it is not about posting immature abusive comments. If you are unable to get your point across in a reasonable and correct manner I would suggest trying another forum.

It's your call.

Thank you

Casmania

Shame that, thought what I said was quite witty!! I've seen much more controversial comments on here posted, I think I am being victimised... Are we not allowed to have a laugh on this forum or what?

[TT Tiger]

It's ok having friends in high places and having a strong lobby with Wakey Council but as fans we need to know its safe.

To me this doesn't imply anything what it does say explicitly is that we use friends in 'high places' to corrupt government officials witch I stated earlier in the tread

[Frankas]

I worked along side building control & safety officers all my working life, and in all that time i never found any of the building officers and safety officers to be corrupt TTT. When they sign that peace of paper their guaranteeing that the job has been done right, and if something goes wrong it's there neck on the chopping block, I found everyone of the people in building control strict but fair, and always wanted high standards when it came to health and safety.

[Casmania]

It's ok having friends in high places and having a strong lobby with Wakey Council but as fans we need to know its safe. A lot of fans at Wakey are concerned about the cushy relationship between cas tigers and Wakey council could lead to a lapse of judgment which would endanger fans. Cas Tigers and Wakey Council should put out a joint statement reassuring fans that all is safe and they personaly guarantee it. I would hate to see what could be a cracking opener to the season spoiled by fans been fearful.

Comments removed - please refrain from posting such childish comments in future.

This forum is about open and reasoned debate, it is not about posting immature abusive comments. If you are unable to get your point across in a reasonable and correct manner I would suggest trying another forum.

It's your call.

Thank you

Casmania

Shame that, thought what I said was quite witty!! I've seen much more controversial comments on here posted, I think I am being victimised... Are we not allowed to have a laugh on this forum or what?

You may want to check on the definition of "Witty"

Could you please highlight where these "controversial" comments are?

Your posts are currently under moderation, ( you are not the only one) this action followed a number of requests for you to tone your comments down, which you chose to ignore.

Some on here do overstep the mark at times, that is the nature of having an open forum. Everyone is more than welcome to post anything on here-as long it is within the A.U.P. The consequences of not adhering to guidelines results in threads being derailed and slanging matches.

Your views and comments are welcomed as much as anyone else, but they have to be within the guidelines.

Casmania

[duke street 10]

Raj's post just highlights how insecure & paranoid some of their fans are.

[The Firm]

A safety officer would NEVER set the minimum standard lower for it would be on their head should anything go wrong, so our ground will be safe. But the target standard could be set higher if the officer deemed it necessary, so maybe the beef is that Belle Vue seems to them to be treated differently that way? Not saying that is what has happen here by the way, just a theory as to why they might be getting their knickers in a twist!

[Sigon]

It's ok having friends in high places and having a strong lobby with Wakey Council but as fans we need to know its safe. A lot of fans at Wakey are concerned about the cushy relationship between cas tigers and Wakey council could lead to a lapse of judgment which would endanger fans. Cas Tigers and Wakey Council should put out a joint statement reassuring fans that all is safe and they personaly guarantee it. I would hate to see what could be a cracking opener to the season spoiled by fans been fearful.

... and yet you are the one continually pushing the fear and loathing.

[Tigerade]

More bad news from Tesco - they are cutting their product range by one third. As we all know Aldi and Lidl have taken a huge slice of the cake and Tesco are the worse off :-

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... e-products?

[lurcher]

there is a huge regeneration plan over here in brid which has taken years to finalise. as part of this tesco had agreed to move from their present site to a larger one freeing up the land for a road widening scheme. they've pulled out at the last minute leaving the scheme in ruins.

[Raj Poot Wildcat]

there is a huge regeneration plan over here in brid which has taken years to finalise. as part of this tesco had agreed to move from their present site to a larger one freeing up the land for a road widening scheme. they've pulled out at the last minute leaving the scheme in ruins.

People shopping habits have changed dramatically since the Economic crash. Shoppers tend to make smaller but more often shops. This suites the smaller in town/community stores. Tescos have gone on record saying that a number of larger out of town stores are now losing money. The decision in brid fits in with all that. Don't know if it effects your next stadium plans.

[Casmania]

there is a huge regeneration plan over here in brid which has taken years to finalise. as part of this tesco had agreed to move from their present site to a larger one freeing up the land for a road widening scheme. they've pulled out at the last minute leaving the scheme in ruins.

People shopping habits have changed dramatically since the Economic crash. Shoppers tend to make smaller but more often shops. This suites the smaller in town/community stores. Tescos have gone on record saying that a number of larger out of town stores are now losing money. The decision in brid fits in with all that. Don't know if it effects your next stadium plans.

It doesn't.......the 5 towns park is a fully sustainable and viable proposition and is not dependant on one element.

The only effect felt, will be the benefits associated with a £135m investment into the local area and community..

[Raj Poot Wildcat]

there is a huge regeneration plan over here in brid which has taken years to finalise. as part of this tesco had agreed to move from their present site to a larger one freeing up the land for a road widening scheme. they've pulled out at the last minute leaving the scheme in ruins.

People shopping habits have changed dramatically since the Economic crash. Shoppers tend to make smaller but more often shops. This suites the smaller in town/community stores. Tescos have gone on record saying that a number of larger out of town stores are now losing money. The decision in brid fits in with all that. Don't know if it effects your next stadium plans.

It doesn't.......the 5 towns park is a fully sustainable and viable proposition and is not dependant on one element.

The only effect felt, will be the benefits associated with a £135m investment into the local area and community..

Now were have I heard that before :-k

[Casmania]

there is a huge regeneration plan over here in brid which has taken years to finalise. as part of this tesco had agreed to move from their present site to a larger one freeing up the land for a road widening scheme. they've pulled out at the last minute leaving the scheme in ruins.

People shopping habits have changed dramatically since the Economic crash. Shoppers tend to make smaller but more often shops. This suites the smaller in town/community stores. Tescos have gone on record saying that a number of larger out of town stores are now losing money. The decision in brid fits in with all that. Don't know if it effects your next stadium plans.

It doesn't.......the 5 towns park is a fully sustainable and viable proposition and is not dependant on one element.

The only effect felt, will be the benefits associated with a £135m investment into the local area and community..

Now were have I heard that before :-k

I will refresh your memory....Newmarket. The 5 towns park is similar to Newmarket ie an enabling development. However, the big difference is that legal and contractual obligations are built in to ensure the construction of the stadium at GH.
Newmarket was supposed to have a number of trigger points which would then enable construction to start. Sadly, it appears the developers do not have to honour or abide by those obligations.
The stadium at GH will be the first and only construction to go ahead once planning permission is granted. The remaining development can not start until the stadium has been completed and the keys handed over ( this does not apply to earth and other preparatory works )
This is a legal binding contractual obligation which has been agreed and signed by all the relevant parties. It should also be noted that there will no cost to the public purse, all funding is provided by the developers and their partners.

I hope that clarifies things for you.

[alcasfan]

I hope that clarifies things for you.

It won't! ](*,)