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Post by alftupper » 12 Dec 2018, 16:58

I listened to PMQ’s as usual today and I couldn’t help picking up on something TM said which I hadn’t heard prior. Apparently the horrible shadow chancellor is proposing trade union legislation to make it legal to strike in support of workers in any part of the world

WF10 please tell me that this is just TM making this up!!

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alftupper wrote:I listened to PMQ’s as usual today and I couldn’t help picking up on something TM said which I hadn’t heard prior. Apparently the horrible shadow chancellor is proposing trade union legislation to make it legal to strike in support of workers in any part of the world

WF10 please tell me that this is just TM making this up!!

Heard that also ! Len Mcluskey has been at work by the sounds of it and it just goes to show that this country would be totally ruined and run by hard left "commies under the beds" who would break this country up ! - makes you wonder if there's "under the table" brown envelopes being sent from the Kremlin !!!! Shudder to Think and it would be a case of Venezuela here we come !!

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alftupper wrote:I listened to PMQ’s as usual today and I couldn’t help picking up on something TM said which I hadn’t heard prior. Apparently the horrible shadow chancellor is proposing trade union legislation to make it legal to strike in support of workers in any part of the world

WF10 please tell me that this is just TM making this up!!

Heard that also ! Len Mcluskey has been at work by the sounds of it and it just goes to show that this country would be totally ruined and run by hard left "commies under the beds" who would break this country up ! - makes you wonder if there's "under the table" brown envelopes being sent from the Kremlin !!!! Shudder to Think and it would be a case of Venezuela here we come !!
That's some impressive deflection you two - well done.
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Post by CasRus » 12 Dec 2018, 19:29

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alftupper wrote:I listened to PMQ’s as usual today and I couldn’t help picking up on something TM said which I hadn’t heard prior. Apparently the horrible shadow chancellor is proposing trade union legislation to make it legal to strike in support of workers in any part of the world

WF10 please tell me that this is just TM making this up!!

Heard that also ! Len Mcluskey has been at work by the sounds of it and it just goes to show that this country would be totally ruined and run by hard left "commies under the beds" who would break this country up ! - makes you wonder if there's "under the table" brown envelopes being sent from the Kremlin !!!! Shudder to Think and it would be a case of Venezuela here we come !!
That's some impressive deflection you two - well done.

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Post by Flat Capper » 13 Dec 2018, 13:48

alftupper wrote: Here he is, old Capper... it’s that time of day again it must be lunch break at the treadmill :lol:

Once again chipping in with total twaddle

Of course I consider some murders more dispicable than others but then again so does our judicial system, that is why we have a tariff based system to guide sentencing you ignoramus.
And thankfully our sentencing guidelines don't include the death penalty but I'm pleased to see you defending the current system with guidelines that still impose strict sentences on those found guilty of murder.

I still cannot see the logic in a death penalty system that says, you deserve to die but you don't or even worse, we won't kill you cos we're not entirely sure you're guilty. Warped minds...

By the way, are you still trying to work out that god old Theresa May or May Not got a bigger majority of the vote than Brexit did but according to Reese-Mogg it was too close to be considered a safe win?
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Post by alftupper » 14 Dec 2018, 18:59

The EU will not renegotiate

Parliament will not approve the deal

A no deal Brexit is now surely on the cards

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Post by alftupper » 14 Dec 2018, 19:32

Flat Capper wrote:
I still cannot see the logic in a death penalty system that says, you deserve to die but you don't or even worse, we won't kill you cos we're not entirely sure you're guilty. Warped minds...

By the way, are you still trying to work out that god old Theresa May or May Not got a bigger majority of the vote than Brexit did but according to Reese-Mogg it was too close to be considered a safe win?


Ian Brady tortured and killed terrified children, he escaped the death penalty by a matter of weeks. He spent the next 50 years in relative comfort on three square meals a day all the while tormenting the victims surviving relatives at a cost to the UK tax payer of £10m

I think it would sicken all right minded people that you are happy he was able to do that rather than swinging from the end of a rope

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Post by CasRus » 14 Dec 2018, 22:05

Capper, just to follow up on Alfs response can you answer this question:-

If it was your child that these monsters had done this to, would you still be of the same opinion ?

I really now look forward to your response by putting yourself in the shoes of these parents - please answer this !

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you won’t get a reply over the weekend CasRus, he posts almost exclusively in works time - weekends are spent down the club playing fives and threes moaning about the bosses.

That said I can anticipate what his answer will be, no death sentence but harsher prison.

It’s worth repeating the UK taxpayer contributed over £10m to keep this monster, that alone is reason enough for a prompt termination.

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alftupper wrote:The EU will not renegotiate

Parliament will not approve the deal

A no deal Brexit is now surely on the cards
Agreed.

I can't weigh up why she went and talked to the EU leaders again this week?

The way I see it is that it's just a PR exercise to portray her as being a fighter or, more likely, to paint the EU as the villains in all this.

But wasn't their stance was known before the referendum?

It's like cancelling Sky and then saying "I'm not paying you, but I still want the sport" and then making out its them who are being unreasonable!
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Post by alftupper » 15 Dec 2018, 19:06

The EU have proved to be totally intransigent in their dealings with both Dave and TM. To be honest their attitude during the whole process has only confirmed to me we need a clean break. What I find particularly galling is the sight of leaders of two bit countries like Ireland etc strutting about calling the shots.

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Jeremy Corbyn ! What a Plonker ! He makes Pinnochio’s nose a lot smaller than the one he was growing in the commons today ! He wasn’t kidding anyone as to what he said !

On top of that we have had another labour MP lying her head off over a speeding offence today !

Labour in charge of the country ? Give me a break !

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Corbyn is a disgrace and how he can call anybody stupid is beyond me.

Careful CasRus, WF10 will be demanding to know why you are attacking a female black mp for lying to the police

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alftupper wrote:Corbyn is a disgrace and how he can call anybody stupid is beyond me.

Careful CasRus, WF10 will be demanding to know why you are attacking a female black mp for lying to the police
Ooops ! yes I nearly forgot ! all these lefties like defending scummers as being victms ! Old Capper still hasn't responded to the question I posed on Brady/Hindley if it was his child which backed up your response! Funny that isn't it !

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alftupper wrote:Corbyn is a disgrace and how he can call anybody stupid is beyond me.

Careful CasRus, WF10 will be demanding to know why you are attacking a female black mp for lying to the police
At least you've noticed that she's black, Alf. You're making some progress at last.
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Post by Flat Capper » 20 Dec 2018, 12:55

CasRus wrote:
alftupper wrote:Corbyn is a disgrace and how he can call anybody stupid is beyond me.

Careful CasRus, WF10 will be demanding to know why you are attacking a female black mp for lying to the police
Ooops ! yes I nearly forgot ! all these lefties like defending scummers as being victms ! Old Capper still hasn't responded to the question I posed on Brady/Hindley if it was his child which backed up your response! Funny that isn't it !
Apologies for not dancing to your tune.

On Brady in particular, towards the end of his life he was desperate to die and escape the system that had denied his freedom for so long. I'm not sure giving murderers what they want is an effective justice system but hey, at least you'd have had an excuse for killing someone.
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Flat Capper wrote:
CasRus wrote:
alftupper wrote:Corbyn is a disgrace and how he can call anybody stupid is beyond me.

Careful CasRus, WF10 will be demanding to know why you are attacking a female black mp for lying to the police
Ooops ! yes I nearly forgot ! all these lefties like defending scummers as being victms ! Old Capper still hasn't responded to the question I posed on Brady/Hindley if it was his child which backed up your response! Funny that isn't it !
Apologies for not dancing to your tune.

On Brady in particular, towards the end of his life he was desperate to die and escape the system that had denied his freedom for so long. I'm not sure giving murderers what they want is an effective justice system but hey, at least you'd have had an excuse for killing someone.
even by Cappers standards his arguments are increasingly muddled and weak. He doesn’t want CP because it is inhumane but wants to lock them up for life because it may be crueler than the release of death. What about the 10 million quid it would have saved the tax payer. What about the mental cruelty he subjected the surviving family members to during the course of his miserable life, but hey the victims don’t matter in a looney lefty mindset

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alftupper wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:
CasRus wrote:
alftupper wrote:Corbyn is a disgrace and how he can call anybody stupid is beyond me.

Careful CasRus, WF10 will be demanding to know why you are attacking a female black mp for lying to the police
Ooops ! yes I nearly forgot ! all these lefties like defending scummers as being victms ! Old Capper still hasn't responded to the question I posed on Brady/Hindley if it was his child which backed up your response! Funny that isn't it !
Apologies for not dancing to your tune.

On Brady in particular, towards the end of his life he was desperate to die and escape the system that had denied his freedom for so long. I'm not sure giving murderers what they want is an effective justice system but hey, at least you'd have had an excuse for killing someone.
even by Cappers standards his arguments are increasingly muddled and weak. He doesn’t want CP because it is inhumane but wants to lock them up for life because it may be crueler than the release of death. What about the 10 million quid it would have saved the tax payer. What about the mental cruelty he subjected the surviving family members to during the course of his miserable life, but hey the victims don’t matter in a looney lefty mindset
Capper still refuses to answer the question of being put in a parents shoes and go through their misery so he hasn't got a scooby doo on how to answer from that standpoint as he has clearly dodged it altogether and his mixed up un-joined last response...….well try picking the bones out and understanding that ! I think he needs therapy !

What isn't the reason to think on common sense standpoint reasoning in getting rid of legally tried "caught stonecold" scum murderers instead of letting them wallow in prison costing £10 million quid for his evil preservation of life when this money could help in the NHS saving the many lives you could save with this money on good people's lives that are actually worth saving. Why oh Why ? Answer that ? Oh I forgot - you are a member of the Loony Left with no practical sense at all !

Capper, I am calling you out again as you seem to have no intentions of protecting the innocent and no thought process of how to stop the jails filling up costing billions and the justice system not being able to place more criminals deservedly requiring a jail sentence because of overcrowding and not able to dish out deserved lengthy sentences by the same token which all allows criminals to laugh in the face of justice.

Getting really tough is the only answer and that's across the board ! I rest my case !

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Typical right-wing, Daily Mail codswallop that genuinely doesn't deserve a response but just to clarify the position for the last time. I don't support capital punishment because:

• It is not a deterrent
• Taking someone else’s life makes you no better than other killers
• It does kill innocent people (which in turn)
• Completely removes the possibility of rectifying the error

However, locking them up for long periods can create the mental torture you refer to and therefore provides punishment but where we do get it wrong, the innocent can be released and suitably compensated. No justice system is 100% fool proof but some are better than others and I certainly do not have any compassion for the criminal.

As for putting myself in the shoes of a parent who's child has been murdered, only those that have can provide an accurate response to how it felt. Personally, it makes no difference to me if it's a child or otherwise as I would be equally pained at the loss of anyone close to me, be it my brother, daughter, wife, mother, best mate, etc. That's because, unlike the fascist right-wingers, I treat everybody equally.

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Flat Capper wrote:Typical right-wing, Daily Mail codswallop that genuinely doesn't deserve a response but just to clarify the position for the last time. I don't support capital punishment because:

• It is not a deterrent
• Taking someone else’s life makes you no better than other killers
• It does kill innocent people (which in turn)
• Completely removes the possibility of rectifying the error

However, locking them up for long periods can create the mental torture you refer to and therefore provides punishment but where we do get it wrong, the innocent can be released and suitably compensated. No justice system is 100% fool proof but some are better than others and I certainly do not have any compassion for the criminal.

As for putting myself in the shoes of a parent who's child has been murdered, only those that have can provide an accurate response to how it felt. Personally, it makes no difference to me if it's a child or otherwise as I would be equally pained at the loss of anyone close to me, be it my brother, daughter, wife, mother, best mate, etc. That's because, unlike the fascist right-wingers, I treat everybody equally.

Enjoy Christmas in the asylum fellas.

You didn't answer the question of locking up as an example Ian Brady costing £10 Million for no benefit or contribution to society and which you stated was eqully abhorrent to him so what's the point of this ! I would rather have the £10 Million quid used to save and improve a good number of innocent lives who would go on contributing to society. He took away lives so why should he not deserve the same ! If you do not fight against evil, evil will take advantage of good naturedness and proliferate like it is now doing so all what's in place now to deter criminality which you advocate is not stopping anything ! Am I right or am I wrong ! You lot would sit there when Rome is burning doing diddly squat ! The expression "Fight the Good Fight with all thy Might" has never been needed more in this day and age.


As for you saying that "only those that have had children murdered can provide an accurate response to how it felt" absolutely beggars belief ! The many programs of those parents being interviewed accurately explains how they felt as does any other parents who have lost kids ! Just look at the girl murdered in NZ last week and her dad on TV cut to pieces ! I just hope that your "apple of your eye child" never gets finished off in the same way as I wouldn't wish this on you but if it did, you would really know then how it would feel !

You my friend need to brush up on common sense and the many decent people around who should be looked after and. it's not the criminals I can assure you ! Just you keep patting criminals on the head, giving 3 square meals a day, TV and table tennis all day and would have society drowning in criminality and huge costs - that I can assure you also ! You need to be a REALIST instead of an ostrich burying your head in the sand and hope it all goes away ! IT AINT !

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